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> That said, to me, this doesn't seem like a hill worth dying on I don't think he saw it as a hill worth dying on, just a random hill he happened to be shot on

by flukus 7y ago

> That said, to me, this doesn't seem like a hill worth dying on I don't think he saw it as a hill worth dying on, just a random hill he happened to be shot on. It's part of a random scattering of thoughts he makes public. Either way, I'm cancelling my FSF donations for caving into this witch hunt. It's long demise will be helmed by people that stand for nothing less they offend someone.

mgalgs 7y ago
> Either way, I'm cancelling my FSF donations for caving into this witch hunt. If the FSF experiences a drop in donations couldn't they interpret that as people trying to distance themselves with Stallman, and he's basically synonymous with the FSF?
- edoceo 7y ago
  If you leave/cancel tell them why, to remove ambiguity.
- deleted 7y ago
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scrollaway 7y ago
> I don't think he saw it as a hill worth dying on If you know Stallman at all, you know that he sees every single hill as a hill worth dying on. It's kinda the problem.
- cameldrv 7y ago
  It's the problem now, but specifically this tendency of Stallman is why the FSF exists at all, and why there was a compiler and a complete, freely available Unix userspace already available for Linus to bundle with his kernel, and voila, free Unix. It's also the reason we have an Open Source movement, that being the watered down and more corporately palatable version of Stallman's idealistic vision. Yes, he's totally uncompromising, has no sense of pragmatic tradeoffs or weighing one thing against another or deciding what is a good hill to die on. That's not the way I think is best to live my life, and it's probably best that most people don't live theirs that way either. Still, there should be a place in the world for people like him to have the freedom to be able to create and run their own organization with their own ideals.
  - ihatemondays 7y ago
    > It's also the reason we have an Open Source movement, that being the watered down and more corporately palatable version of Stallman's idealistic vision. If you ever talked with Stallman, read his texts, listened to his talks, you'd know that in certain ways Stallman's views are much weaker than what most people think they are. He doesn't have any issue with corps taking over the FOSS world as long as it compiles on trisquel and comes with a free license. That's why I'm glad that he's going away now. Hope we can get someone who actually will stand up against the issues that the FOSS world is facing now in his seat.
    - wott 7y ago
      > He doesn't have any issue with corps taking over the FOSS world as long as it compiles on trisquel and comes with a free license. The attitude you describe is much more represented by Linus Torvalds, and by the BSD folks, than by the GNU / GPL folks.
      - ihatemondays 7y ago
        I've literally talked to RMS before about this. Torvalds etc might have such views too at more extreme levels, but RMS definitely has it himself.
armitron 7y ago
Doing the same. I will also make sure to let them know why. I'm disgusted by MIT, FSF and everyone who's entered this witch hunt asking for blood.

by flukus 7y ago

mgalgs 7y ago

> Either way, I'm cancelling my FSF donations for caving into this witch hunt. If the FSF experiences a drop in donations couldn't they interpret that as people trying to distance themselves with Stallman, and he's basically synonymous with the FSF?

edoceo 7y ago
If you leave/cancel tell them why, to remove ambiguity.
deleted 7y ago
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scrollaway 7y ago

> I don't think he saw it as a hill worth dying on If you know Stallman at all, you know that he sees every single hill as a hill worth dying on. It's kinda the problem.

cameldrv 7y ago
It's the problem now, but specifically this tendency of Stallman is why the FSF exists at all, and why there was a compiler and a complete, freely available Unix userspace already available for Linus to bundle with his kernel, and voila, free Unix. It's also the reason we have an Open Source movement, that being the watered down and more corporately palatable version of Stallman's idealistic vision. Yes, he's totally uncompromising, has no sense of pragmatic tradeoffs or weighing one thing against another or deciding what is a good hill to die on. That's not the way I think is best to live my life, and it's probably best that most people don't live theirs that way either. Still, there should be a place in the world for people like him to have the freedom to be able to create and run their own organization with their own ideals.
- ihatemondays 7y ago
  > It's also the reason we have an Open Source movement, that being the watered down and more corporately palatable version of Stallman's idealistic vision. If you ever talked with Stallman, read his texts, listened to his talks, you'd know that in certain ways Stallman's views are much weaker than what most people think they are. He doesn't have any issue with corps taking over the FOSS world as long as it compiles on trisquel and comes with a free license. That's why I'm glad that he's going away now. Hope we can get someone who actually will stand up against the issues that the FOSS world is facing now in his seat.
  - wott 7y ago
    > He doesn't have any issue with corps taking over the FOSS world as long as it compiles on trisquel and comes with a free license. The attitude you describe is much more represented by Linus Torvalds, and by the BSD folks, than by the GNU / GPL folks.
    - ihatemondays 7y ago
      I've literally talked to RMS before about this. Torvalds etc might have such views too at more extreme levels, but RMS definitely has it himself.

armitron 7y ago

Doing the same. I will also make sure to let them know why. I'm disgusted by MIT, FSF and everyone who's entered this witch hunt asking for blood.