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So you believe Stallman's statements indicate he's a pedophile, not merely somebody with a long and established history of being tactless? Because I'd say ther

So you believe Stallman's statements indicate he's a pedophile, not merely somebody with a long and established history of being tactless? Because I'd say there is a hell of a lot more evidence that he's tactless due to being neuroatypical. Maybe that makes him a bad leader, but it surely doesn't make him evil.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> So you believe Stallman's statements indicate he's a pedophile... I think you're mixing me up with another commenter.
- partialrecall 7y ago
  You're right, I apologize.
samantohermes 7y ago
His statements aren't merely socially unappropriated, they are grossly logically incorrect.
- geaardheid 7y ago
  First, actually one couldn't know are them correct or not, considering heavy emotional involvement of the opponents. Second, the concept of the childhood is quite misdefined. Third, it is very hard to check correctness of such psychological statement, considering the large amount of influencing factors. Fourth, what do you mean by 'grossly wrong'? Is '2x2=5' grossly wrong, or just a bit wrong? Or what about Borsuk's conjecture? Is it grossly wrong, or may be it is wrong in some different manner ? As Richard Feynman said, nature can't be fooled; but when one trying to play a role of nature's Spanish inquisition, presuming that he or she couldn't be wrong him- or herself, it afaik worsens the thing a lot.
querulous 7y ago
i believe stallman's statements indicate he thinks sex with a consenting child is okay. why does he have to have committed a crime to condemn that view?
- seba_dos1 7y ago
  "Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it. Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that. I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why." - Richard M. Stallman, 14 September 2019 https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong) https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September...

ceejayoz 7y ago

> So you believe Stallman's statements indicate he's a pedophile... I think you're mixing me up with another commenter.

partialrecall 7y ago
You're right, I apologize.

samantohermes 7y ago

His statements aren't merely socially unappropriated, they are grossly logically incorrect.

geaardheid 7y ago
First, actually one couldn't know are them correct or not, considering heavy emotional involvement of the opponents. Second, the concept of the childhood is quite misdefined. Third, it is very hard to check correctness of such psychological statement, considering the large amount of influencing factors. Fourth, what do you mean by 'grossly wrong'? Is '2x2=5' grossly wrong, or just a bit wrong? Or what about Borsuk's conjecture? Is it grossly wrong, or may be it is wrong in some different manner ? As Richard Feynman said, nature can't be fooled; but when one trying to play a role of nature's Spanish inquisition, presuming that he or she couldn't be wrong him- or herself, it afaik worsens the thing a lot.

querulous 7y ago

i believe stallman's statements indicate he thinks sex with a consenting child is okay. why does he have to have committed a crime to condemn that view?

seba_dos1 7y ago
"Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it. Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that. I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why." - Richard M. Stallman, 14 September 2019 https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong) https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September...