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1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and

1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and haven't heard of anything) 3) How's the rest of your keyboard doing? Do you like it?

daseiner1 7y ago
1. Personally, no. 2. I love BetterTouchTool – I use it at work and at home. Ambivalent towards the touch bar without it, LOVE the touch bar with it. 3. My mid-'16 personal Macbook has the "stuttering keyboard" issue – extra characters typed if not careful. I haven't been doing much side-work lately so I can ignore it, but it's a real pain in the ass for sure. Haven't had that issue on my 2018 work Macbook (yet).
kristofferR 7y ago
2. The touchbar is very customizeable. GoldenChaos-BTT is the best one: https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete-touch-bar-ui-replacement/1281 https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete...
brailsafe 7y ago
I also like the TouchBar and use BetterTouchTool a bit. But the limitation that annoys me is that I can't simultaneously customize it and display app specific context buttons. As in one section customized if a spotify thing is playing, but otherwise make the space available for overriding.
- daseiner1 7y ago
  Have you investigated the option in BTT on a button to always display regardless of context?
  - brailsafe 7y ago
    Right now I have a spotify song display alongside default apple controls. But afaik there isn't the ability to allocate a bit of the touchbar to BTT, Apple default controls, and app specific context controls. BTT takes over most of the bar, but then I lose the ability to easily use pycharm debugging controls for example.
stevewodil 7y ago
1) No, the only one I could see an argument for would be the escape key, but I'm not fussed about that personally, but I also don't live in Vim. Apps also have custom touchbar functions that are more useful than just the function keys in my opinion (you don't have to learn as many keyboard shortcuts for each app). 2) I don't, other than the customization you can do within macOS. I think the only thing that I've really done is remove the Siri shortcut from it. 3) Good so far. I have a 2018 model which has the silicon membrane under the keys and is supposed to be a bit more resilient. One benefit that this whole mess does have is when my battery deteriorates I can get a new one for free by using the keyboard replacement program. At this point if I didn't already have the MacBook I would wait for the next keyboard design to buy one, but personally have not had issues (yet). As far as the typing experience I find it good for short burst typing and the short key travel is generally fine with me, despite using mechanical keyboards elsewhere.

daseiner1 7y ago

1. Personally, no. 2. I love BetterTouchTool – I use it at work and at home. Ambivalent towards the touch bar without it, LOVE the touch bar with it. 3. My mid-'16 personal Macbook has the "stuttering keyboard" issue – extra characters typed if not careful. I haven't been doing much side-work lately so I can ignore it, but it's a real pain in the ass for sure. Haven't had that issue on my 2018 work Macbook (yet).

kristofferR 7y ago

2. The touchbar is very customizeable. GoldenChaos-BTT is the best one: https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete-touch-bar-ui-replacement/1281 https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete...

brailsafe 7y ago

I also like the TouchBar and use BetterTouchTool a bit. But the limitation that annoys me is that I can't simultaneously customize it and display app specific context buttons. As in one section customized if a spotify thing is playing, but otherwise make the space available for overriding.

daseiner1 7y ago
Have you investigated the option in BTT on a button to always display regardless of context?
- brailsafe 7y ago
  Right now I have a spotify song display alongside default apple controls. But afaik there isn't the ability to allocate a bit of the touchbar to BTT, Apple default controls, and app specific context controls. BTT takes over most of the bar, but then I lose the ability to easily use pycharm debugging controls for example.

stevewodil 7y ago

1) No, the only one I could see an argument for would be the escape key, but I'm not fussed about that personally, but I also don't live in Vim. Apps also have custom touchbar functions that are more useful than just the function keys in my opinion (you don't have to learn as many keyboard shortcuts for each app). 2) I don't, other than the customization you can do within macOS. I think the only thing that I've really done is remove the Siri shortcut from it. 3) Good so far. I have a 2018 model which has the silicon membrane under the keys and is supposed to be a bit more resilient. One benefit that this whole mess does have is when my battery deteriorates I can get a new one for free by using the keyboard replacement program. At this point if I didn't already have the MacBook I would wait for the next keyboard design to buy one, but personally have not had issues (yet). As far as the typing experience I find it good for short burst typing and the short key travel is generally fine with me, despite using mechanical keyboards elsewhere.