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Considering the largest offender is Nestle, I'd say yes. Bottled water here in Oregon almost always comes from California - which is a bit insane when we have s

Considering the largest offender is Nestle, I'd say yes. Bottled water here in Oregon almost always comes from California - which is a bit insane when we have so much water here locally.

seltzered_ 7y ago
In central Washington State, there was some recent debate over Crystal Geyser setting up a plant in Randle, WA: http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8029750&start=30 http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8029750&start... I hadn't kept up with the story since first hearing about it from locals running a petition - Interestingly there's a peer into the negotiation tactics due to an email slip: http://www.chronline.com/news/crystal-geyser-mistakenly-emails-chronicle-randle-bottling-project-likely-dead/article_cd562296-a434-11e9-85e8-03a953d811a6.html http://www.chronline.com/news/crystal-geyser-mistakenly-emai... https://kuow.org/stories/with-a-mistaken-email-crystal-geyser-bubbles-up-controversy https://kuow.org/stories/with-a-mistaken-email-crystal-geyse... Crystal was working on this for a while - they were bringing in fiber optic lines into Randle months beforehand, seemed to be on the mayor's good side. The interesting thing is wondering how it riled up people that I think are right-of-center non-environmental types. I remember hearing lines akin to 'a Japanese company is coming into our town' (Crystal Geyser is "is a wholly owned subsidiary of Japanese pharmaceutical company, Otsuka Holdings" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Geyser_Water_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Geyser_Water_Company).
briffle 7y ago
Nestle did try to build a bottling plant near hood river a few years ago. They were going to draw water from a tributary that would have affected spawning salmon and steelhead. The county passed a ballot measure that no commercial water bottling could happen in Hood River County.
- CameronNemo 7y ago
  I guess California does not have enough salmon to care (nobody likes the smelt :/ ), or the farms are taking so much water that bottling is paltry in comparison.
  - jedberg 7y ago
    California has a very complicated relationship with water. Because most of our state is a desert, water rights are something people literally killed over until pretty recently. Strong water rights are codified into our laws, and they mostly have to do with land ownership. You own the land you own the water underneath. It makes it really easy for Nestle to take advantage of laws written for farmers 150 years ago. We're slowly changing the rules about water so that we don't destroy California farming but still have water left in 50 years.
    - CameronNemo 7y ago
      The San Bernardino mountains Nestle extraction point is a federal property, though. The poor nation state cannot even govern its own water. https://www.courthousenews.com/watch-the-water-grab-california-warns-nestle/ https://www.courthousenews.com/watch-the-water-grab-californ...

Considering the largest offender is Nestle, I'd say yes. Bottled water here in Oregon almost always comes from California - which is a bit insane when we have so much water here locally.

seltzered_ 7y ago

In central Washington State, there was some recent debate over Crystal Geyser setting up a plant in Randle, WA: http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8029750&start=30 http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8029750&start... I hadn't kept up with the story since first hearing about it from locals running a petition - Interestingly there's a peer into the negotiation tactics due to an email slip: http://www.chronline.com/news/crystal-geyser-mistakenly-emails-chronicle-randle-bottling-project-likely-dead/article_cd562296-a434-11e9-85e8-03a953d811a6.html http://www.chronline.com/news/crystal-geyser-mistakenly-emai... https://kuow.org/stories/with-a-mistaken-email-crystal-geyser-bubbles-up-controversy https://kuow.org/stories/with-a-mistaken-email-crystal-geyse... Crystal was working on this for a while - they were bringing in fiber optic lines into Randle months beforehand, seemed to be on the mayor's good side. The interesting thing is wondering how it riled up people that I think are right-of-center non-environmental types. I remember hearing lines akin to 'a Japanese company is coming into our town' (Crystal Geyser is "is a wholly owned subsidiary of Japanese pharmaceutical company, Otsuka Holdings" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Geyser_Water_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Geyser_Water_Company).

briffle 7y ago

Nestle did try to build a bottling plant near hood river a few years ago. They were going to draw water from a tributary that would have affected spawning salmon and steelhead. The county passed a ballot measure that no commercial water bottling could happen in Hood River County.

CameronNemo 7y ago
I guess California does not have enough salmon to care (nobody likes the smelt :/ ), or the farms are taking so much water that bottling is paltry in comparison.
- jedberg 7y ago
  California has a very complicated relationship with water. Because most of our state is a desert, water rights are something people literally killed over until pretty recently. Strong water rights are codified into our laws, and they mostly have to do with land ownership. You own the land you own the water underneath. It makes it really easy for Nestle to take advantage of laws written for farmers 150 years ago. We're slowly changing the rules about water so that we don't destroy California farming but still have water left in 50 years.
  - CameronNemo 7y ago
    The San Bernardino mountains Nestle extraction point is a federal property, though. The poor nation state cannot even govern its own water. https://www.courthousenews.com/watch-the-water-grab-california-warns-nestle/ https://www.courthousenews.com/watch-the-water-grab-californ...