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I used to use flattr and thought the concept was sound. Until I saw that most of the creators I wanted to sponsor never bothered to sign up and collect their mo

I used to use flattr and thought the concept was sound. Until I saw that most of the creators I wanted to sponsor never bothered to sign up and collect their money. Anyone else have experience with flattr or similar alternatives? I figure with all the "block chain" interest we'd have seen something built on a cryptocurrency allowing "direct" microdonations to a website's "wallet" EDIT: looks like coil is kinda of like flattr

sp332 7y ago
Readability tried something like this. Readers liked it a lot more than publishers did. https://web.archive.org/web/20120702145822/http://blog.readability.com/2012/06/announcement https://web.archive.org/web/20120702145822/http://blog.reada... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105891 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105891
- zem 7y ago
  this comment was telling: Keith Calder June 13, 2012 • 10:41 am I considered signing up for the Readability Publisher Program. Then I read the Terms of Service (amusingly I just read it yesterday, so this is all fresh in my mind). There is no way in hell I could agree to those terms. It basically gives Readability the right to do whatever they want with my content (which they were already doing, even without my permission) and I would have to limit any liability Readability might have for doing whatever they want with my content. Some gems from the Readability Publisher Program Terms of Service. You shall not “modify, translate, or otherwise create derivative works of any part of the Readability Service” You know, the exact thing Readability does with my content. Or are we pretending that Readlists aren’t a derivative work? “You agree to hold Readability, its directors, officers and employees, harmless, including costs and attorneys’ fees, from any claim of copyright infringement or intellectual property misappropriation related to ANY WEB pages or articles sent THROUGH or processed through the Readability Service, the Readability website (readability.com) or through the Readability API.” So basically if I sign up to collect money from Readability, I have to hold them harmless for ANY copyright infringement on ANY web page or article I have authored that is sent through the Readability Service. So if I wrote an article that is behind a pay-wall, and someone figures out a way to add that to a ReadList… Oh well. Nothing I can do about that, unless Readability decides to be nice to me and remove the article. But they’re under no obligation to do that. They could just choose to let people freely redistribute my content against my wishes because I signed up for their Publisher Program to collect money they decided to collect on my behalf. And just to add insult to injury… “The Readability Service are protected by copyright, trademark, and other laws of both the United States and foreign countries. Nothing in the Terms gives you a right to use the Readability name or any of the Readability trademarks, logos, domain names, and other distinctive brand features.” Nice to know that Readability is protected by copyright and trademark laws that apparently don’t protect any of my content. So yeah. Good riddance to the Readability “publisher payment plan.” I look forward to the other exciting ways Readability will help great content flourish online.
  - nine_k 7y ago
    Remember when people thought that selling unprotected mp3 files is crazy, and everyone woulDD just pirate them? Well, yes, some do, and will do. But in most cases buying is much less hassle, and costs very little, so there is no point to pirate just from the convenience point of view. We need Spotify and Bandcamp for texts, with fast and frictionless payment, cheaply operated.
dessant 7y ago
Flattr is the property of Eyeo GmbH, the same company that owns Adblock Plus. Also keep in mind that you will have to give them a copy of your government ID to withdraw the money you receive.
hobofan 7y ago
Satoshipay[0] has been around for a long time (and many iterations) and is now based on Stellar and from what I've seen pretty simple to integrate for websites. [0]: https://satoshipay.io https://satoshipay.io

sp332 7y ago

Readability tried something like this. Readers liked it a lot more than publishers did. https://web.archive.org/web/20120702145822/http://blog.readability.com/2012/06/announcement https://web.archive.org/web/20120702145822/http://blog.reada... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105891 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105891

zem 7y ago
this comment was telling: Keith Calder June 13, 2012 • 10:41 am I considered signing up for the Readability Publisher Program. Then I read the Terms of Service (amusingly I just read it yesterday, so this is all fresh in my mind). There is no way in hell I could agree to those terms. It basically gives Readability the right to do whatever they want with my content (which they were already doing, even without my permission) and I would have to limit any liability Readability might have for doing whatever they want with my content. Some gems from the Readability Publisher Program Terms of Service. You shall not “modify, translate, or otherwise create derivative works of any part of the Readability Service” You know, the exact thing Readability does with my content. Or are we pretending that Readlists aren’t a derivative work? “You agree to hold Readability, its directors, officers and employees, harmless, including costs and attorneys’ fees, from any claim of copyright infringement or intellectual property misappropriation related to ANY WEB pages or articles sent THROUGH or processed through the Readability Service, the Readability website (readability.com) or through the Readability API.” So basically if I sign up to collect money from Readability, I have to hold them harmless for ANY copyright infringement on ANY web page or article I have authored that is sent through the Readability Service. So if I wrote an article that is behind a pay-wall, and someone figures out a way to add that to a ReadList… Oh well. Nothing I can do about that, unless Readability decides to be nice to me and remove the article. But they’re under no obligation to do that. They could just choose to let people freely redistribute my content against my wishes because I signed up for their Publisher Program to collect money they decided to collect on my behalf. And just to add insult to injury… “The Readability Service are protected by copyright, trademark, and other laws of both the United States and foreign countries. Nothing in the Terms gives you a right to use the Readability name or any of the Readability trademarks, logos, domain names, and other distinctive brand features.” Nice to know that Readability is protected by copyright and trademark laws that apparently don’t protect any of my content. So yeah. Good riddance to the Readability “publisher payment plan.” I look forward to the other exciting ways Readability will help great content flourish online.
- nine_k 7y ago
  Remember when people thought that selling unprotected mp3 files is crazy, and everyone woulDD just pirate them? Well, yes, some do, and will do. But in most cases buying is much less hassle, and costs very little, so there is no point to pirate just from the convenience point of view. We need Spotify and Bandcamp for texts, with fast and frictionless payment, cheaply operated.

dessant 7y ago

Flattr is the property of Eyeo GmbH, the same company that owns Adblock Plus. Also keep in mind that you will have to give them a copy of your government ID to withdraw the money you receive.

hobofan 7y ago

Satoshipay[0] has been around for a long time (and many iterations) and is now based on Stellar and from what I've seen pretty simple to integrate for websites. [0]: https://satoshipay.io https://satoshipay.io