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5G can handle more devices being connected. All those smart things that want to phone home. It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning h

by mfer 7y ago

5G can handle more devices being connected. All those smart things that want to phone home. It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning home without using our personal internet connections. I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. 5G makes this idea much easier. Phone companies can get contracts with all these device manufacturers and make money that way.

Flockster 7y ago
So in the future hacker TVs will be covered with tin foil on the back?
- birdyrooster 7y ago
  I need a firewall for my house to let 5G signals thru.
reaperducer 7y ago
I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. If you have cable, satellite, or streaming this already happens. The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage.
- krn 7y ago
  > The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage. Pi-hole[1] might still help at the moment, until the TVs start coming with their own SIM cards. In any case, I wouldn't use a TV as anything more than an extra large monitor for Raspberry Pi running something like Kodi[2]. [1] https://pi-hole.net/ https://pi-hole.net/ [2] https://kodi.tv/ https://kodi.tv/
- mfer 7y ago
  It depends on who is watching. For example, if I am watching Netflix I expect them to know what I watched. But, would I expect my TV (the visual device) to know what I watched and report back to the TV manufacturer? I can choose to not connect my TV to the Internet or use something like Pie Hole to stop that device from reporting. If the TV used the cell network how would I stop the TV from reporting?
gzu 7y ago
Maybe then someone smart would come up with a device that would route all 5G traffic through and broadcast to other devices, masking the source and even proxied through a remote server /s
JohnFen 7y ago
Those are devices I simply will not purchase, for obvious reasons.
wmf 7y ago
It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning home without using our personal internet connections. There's no way this can be cheaper, especially in the US where carriers are currently charging $10-20 per device per month. I can imagine a dystopian future where device vendors think "x% of people can't figure out how to connect to their own WiFi, so let's ship a 5G radio with Verizon eSIM instead and make up the extra cost with more privacy-invading ads" but I'm going to ragequit the Internet if that happens.
- antsar 7y ago
  Maybe they could optimize by turning off (and not paying for) cellular when WiFi is available. Seems disgustingly plausible, tbh.
- kalleboo 7y ago
  If you look up the pricing of M2M SIM cards, the monthly per-SIM cost is more on the order of $1/mo. Of course the bandwidth prices are straight out of 2005, but these are only meant for phoning home with a couple bytes of data now and then.

by mfer 7y ago

Flockster 7y ago

So in the future hacker TVs will be covered with tin foil on the back?

birdyrooster 7y ago
I need a firewall for my house to let 5G signals thru.

reaperducer 7y ago

I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. If you have cable, satellite, or streaming this already happens. The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage.

krn 7y ago
> The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage. Pi-hole[1] might still help at the moment, until the TVs start coming with their own SIM cards. In any case, I wouldn't use a TV as anything more than an extra large monitor for Raspberry Pi running something like Kodi[2]. [1] https://pi-hole.net/ https://pi-hole.net/ [2] https://kodi.tv/ https://kodi.tv/
mfer 7y ago
It depends on who is watching. For example, if I am watching Netflix I expect them to know what I watched. But, would I expect my TV (the visual device) to know what I watched and report back to the TV manufacturer? I can choose to not connect my TV to the Internet or use something like Pie Hole to stop that device from reporting. If the TV used the cell network how would I stop the TV from reporting?

gzu 7y ago

Maybe then someone smart would come up with a device that would route all 5G traffic through and broadcast to other devices, masking the source and even proxied through a remote server /s

JohnFen 7y ago

Those are devices I simply will not purchase, for obvious reasons.

wmf 7y ago

It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning home without using our personal internet connections. There's no way this can be cheaper, especially in the US where carriers are currently charging $10-20 per device per month. I can imagine a dystopian future where device vendors think "x% of people can't figure out how to connect to their own WiFi, so let's ship a 5G radio with Verizon eSIM instead and make up the extra cost with more privacy-invading ads" but I'm going to ragequit the Internet if that happens.

antsar 7y ago
Maybe they could optimize by turning off (and not paying for) cellular when WiFi is available. Seems disgustingly plausible, tbh.
kalleboo 7y ago
If you look up the pricing of M2M SIM cards, the monthly per-SIM cost is more on the order of $1/mo. Of course the bandwidth prices are straight out of 2005, but these are only meant for phoning home with a couple bytes of data now and then.