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> No one is green-lighting a television show with the expectation of huge distribution agreements decades later. Really that seems like such a strange viewpoin

> No one is green-lighting a television show with the expectation of huge distribution agreements decades later. Really that seems like such a strange viewpoint. All of these shows that Netflix is creating right now, they are definitely value adds that will carry them forward well into the future. If it wasn't for the huge success of old shows, Netflix wouldn't have gotten into this game.

Retric 7y ago
It’s a question of time value of money. Use say a 5% annual discount and 20 years out you’re down to 36%. Today a few shows are valuable decades after they aired, but as a percentage of value at creation it’s a drop in the bucket. Even in Seinfeld’s case the show was already into the multi billion dollar category. It’s revenue today adds the equivalent of less than 1% of it’s total.
- rhacker 7y ago
  Every percentage counts. All of that is revenue applied to the company. Multiply it by 15 shows, you have residual income in the billions per year. That may be money to sneeze at, but at the end of the day, a billion dollars or not may be the difference between having the funding to launch 10 more shows or not.
  - Retric 7y ago
    There are not 15 shows with that kind of residuals 20+ years our.
DanBC 7y ago
Which show created by Netflix will we still be watching in 2039?
- libraryatnight 7y ago
  You're asking us to play fortune teller, but I suspect you're trying to imply that Netflix hasn't done anything of sufficient quality to warrant rewatching? I'd say they've made some stuff that has a shot of being rewatched: Master of None, Love, Russian Doll, and I'm sure more. And then there's their additions to already popular things like their installments of Wet Hot American Summer, Dark Crystal, Black Mirror etc. Netflix is making some decent content. Lots of not so great stuff, but some good in there too. Just like TV.
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  Are you saying Netflix hasn’t made quality shows that will last through 2039? I’d like to know which company you think has made close to the amount of quality shows Netflix has since 2014. Here’s part of a list I have for a content project. No company comes close to this output in recent history. House of Cards launched February 2013 (7 seasons, finished) Orange is the New Black launched July 2013 (7 seasons, finished) Stranger Things launched July 2016 (3 seasons, 1-2 more) — Dark (2 seasons, 3rd is last) Glitch (2 seasons, 3rd might never come) Russian Doll (1 season) Haunting of Hill House (1 season, anthology) American Vandal (2 seasons) Black Mirror (anthology, last season not that good) The Crown (3 seasons) When They See Us (mini-series, 2019) Unbelievable (just came out) — Glow (3 seasons) Kimmy Schmidt (4 seasons, finished) Arrested Development (they tried, hard to get it all back together after years of being done) Sex Education (1 season) Bojack Horseman (5 seasons?) #animated Mindhunter (2 seasons) The OA (2 seasons) Maniac (mini-series) Wet Hot American Summer (2 seasons, but season 1 is the top notch one) F is for Family (3? seasons) #animated Big Mouth (2? seasons) #animated — Documentary mini-series — Staircase Making a Murderer Evil Genius The Jinx Wild Wild West ——- There’s more I’m missing and I didn’t include a number of shows Netflix helps finance but isn’t the main financier or producer or original place of distribution. Shows like Glitch.

Retric 7y ago

It’s a question of time value of money. Use say a 5% annual discount and 20 years out you’re down to 36%. Today a few shows are valuable decades after they aired, but as a percentage of value at creation it’s a drop in the bucket. Even in Seinfeld’s case the show was already into the multi billion dollar category. It’s revenue today adds the equivalent of less than 1% of it’s total.

rhacker 7y ago
Every percentage counts. All of that is revenue applied to the company. Multiply it by 15 shows, you have residual income in the billions per year. That may be money to sneeze at, but at the end of the day, a billion dollars or not may be the difference between having the funding to launch 10 more shows or not.
- Retric 7y ago
  There are not 15 shows with that kind of residuals 20+ years our.

DanBC 7y ago

Which show created by Netflix will we still be watching in 2039?

libraryatnight 7y ago
You're asking us to play fortune teller, but I suspect you're trying to imply that Netflix hasn't done anything of sufficient quality to warrant rewatching? I'd say they've made some stuff that has a shot of being rewatched: Master of None, Love, Russian Doll, and I'm sure more. And then there's their additions to already popular things like their installments of Wet Hot American Summer, Dark Crystal, Black Mirror etc. Netflix is making some decent content. Lots of not so great stuff, but some good in there too. Just like TV.
skinnymuch 7y ago
Are you saying Netflix hasn’t made quality shows that will last through 2039? I’d like to know which company you think has made close to the amount of quality shows Netflix has since 2014. Here’s part of a list I have for a content project. No company comes close to this output in recent history. House of Cards launched February 2013 (7 seasons, finished) Orange is the New Black launched July 2013 (7 seasons, finished) Stranger Things launched July 2016 (3 seasons, 1-2 more) — Dark (2 seasons, 3rd is last) Glitch (2 seasons, 3rd might never come) Russian Doll (1 season) Haunting of Hill House (1 season, anthology) American Vandal (2 seasons) Black Mirror (anthology, last season not that good) The Crown (3 seasons) When They See Us (mini-series, 2019) Unbelievable (just came out) — Glow (3 seasons) Kimmy Schmidt (4 seasons, finished) Arrested Development (they tried, hard to get it all back together after years of being done) Sex Education (1 season) Bojack Horseman (5 seasons?) #animated Mindhunter (2 seasons) The OA (2 seasons) Maniac (mini-series) Wet Hot American Summer (2 seasons, but season 1 is the top notch one) F is for Family (3? seasons) #animated Big Mouth (2? seasons) #animated — Documentary mini-series — Staircase Making a Murderer Evil Genius The Jinx Wild Wild West ——- There’s more I’m missing and I didn’t include a number of shows Netflix helps finance but isn’t the main financier or producer or original place of distribution. Shows like Glitch.