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There I fixed it for you https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim https:/

There I fixed it for you https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

xapata 7y ago
That may indicate vim users googling for how-to guides.
- deleted 7y ago
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elcritch 7y ago
Don’t forget emacs of course: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,Emacs https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%... Looks like Emas used to rule the roost but then died away. What really piques my interest is why those of us in Wyoming (and the Dakota’s and Alaska) and apparently love Vim: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,Emacs&geo=US&date=all#GEO_MAP https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22textmate%22,%2...
- wyclif 7y ago
  Because vim is great for cowboy coding? (I've been using vim for decades)
- kamaal 7y ago
  Emacs takes a fair bit of commitment in time and practice to use it well. In these days of 40 hour work weeks, and life long beginner stage programmers. You won't be seeing its usage grow. I'd even go to an extent and say vim trends show supply of intermediate level programmers. Emacs trends show supply of expert programmers. The fact that those trends are in a downward direction tells a story in itself.
  - pletnes 7y ago
    Absolute numbers could be up, even if relative share is down. Intel reported growth in fortran compiler sales, but python does grow more, so relative numbers are what you expect.
  - normmacdonald 7y ago
    > life long beginner stage programmers?
workaway 7y ago
That may indicate users googling how to exit vim.
- acje 7y ago
  Funny, because it's true.
- ajushi 7y ago
  Some are still stuck up to this day.
- 1wd 7y ago
  https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=exit%20textmate,exit%20vim#GEO_MAP https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=e...
- duck 7y ago
  https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=how%20to%20exit%20vim&date=all&geo=US https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=how%20to%20exit%2...
pnako 7y ago
Let's include something more standard for comparison. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,ed https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...
- banku_brougham 7y ago
  I can now announce that this is the best HN discussion of 2019.
endijs 7y ago
There. Fixed even more: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%2Fm%2F0134xwrk,vim https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%... . And if we take into consideration various versions of how to spell (for example vscode), Visual Studio code dominates even more.
- deleted 7y ago
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maremp 7y ago
When I was starting with vim, I was searching for 'vim [something]' a lot, from plugins to configurations, trying to improve the experience. I have since switched back to Atom and now to VSCode. I don't search 'vscode [something]' nearly as much. Most of the configuration options are explained in the interface (both the visual one and `settings.json`). I can find plugins right from the editor and that usually also includes essential information about working with the plugin. I still use barebones vim for commit messages, and I still find myself looking for how to trigger the spelling suggestions. I never seem to recall the `z=` when I need it. Just because something is less user-friendly and requires more knowledge or looking for help, it doesn't mean it's more popular. The Stack Overflow developer survey is probably a more representative sample: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-most-popular-development-environments https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-....
georgehaake 7y ago
BBedit. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,bbedit https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...
lucideer 7y ago
I think the relevance of these graphs is quite limited by Google's UI (which doesn't allow for wildcarding nor combining results) See for example: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,vscode,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,intellij https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...
skocznymroczny 7y ago
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22how%20to%20use%20vim%22,%22how%20to%20exit%20vim%22 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

xapata 7y ago

That may indicate vim users googling for how-to guides.

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elcritch 7y ago

Don’t forget emacs of course: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,Emacs https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%... Looks like Emas used to rule the roost but then died away. What really piques my interest is why those of us in Wyoming (and the Dakota’s and Alaska) and apparently love Vim: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,Emacs&geo=US&date=all#GEO_MAP https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22textmate%22,%2...

wyclif 7y ago
Because vim is great for cowboy coding? (I've been using vim for decades)
kamaal 7y ago
Emacs takes a fair bit of commitment in time and practice to use it well. In these days of 40 hour work weeks, and life long beginner stage programmers. You won't be seeing its usage grow. I'd even go to an extent and say vim trends show supply of intermediate level programmers. Emacs trends show supply of expert programmers. The fact that those trends are in a downward direction tells a story in itself.
- pletnes 7y ago
  Absolute numbers could be up, even if relative share is down. Intel reported growth in fortran compiler sales, but python does grow more, so relative numbers are what you expect.
- normmacdonald 7y ago
  > life long beginner stage programmers?

workaway 7y ago

That may indicate users googling how to exit vim.

acje 7y ago
Funny, because it's true.
ajushi 7y ago
Some are still stuck up to this day.
1wd 7y ago
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=exit%20textmate,exit%20vim#GEO_MAP https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=e...
duck 7y ago
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=how%20to%20exit%20vim&date=all&geo=US https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=how%20to%20exit%2...

pnako 7y ago

Let's include something more standard for comparison. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,ed https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

banku_brougham 7y ago
I can now announce that this is the best HN discussion of 2019.

endijs 7y ago

There. Fixed even more: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%2Fm%2F0134xwrk,vim https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%... . And if we take into consideration various versions of how to spell (for example vscode), Visual Studio code dominates even more.

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maremp 7y ago

When I was starting with vim, I was searching for 'vim [something]' a lot, from plugins to configurations, trying to improve the experience. I have since switched back to Atom and now to VSCode. I don't search 'vscode [something]' nearly as much. Most of the configuration options are explained in the interface (both the visual one and `settings.json`). I can find plugins right from the editor and that usually also includes essential information about working with the plugin. I still use barebones vim for commit messages, and I still find myself looking for how to trigger the spelling suggestions. I never seem to recall the `z=` when I need it. Just because something is less user-friendly and requires more knowledge or looking for help, it doesn't mean it's more popular. The Stack Overflow developer survey is probably a more representative sample: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-most-popular-development-environments https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-....

georgehaake 7y ago

BBedit. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,vim,bbedit https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

lucideer 7y ago

I think the relevance of these graphs is quite limited by Google's UI (which doesn't allow for wildcarding nor combining results) See for example: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22textmate%22,%22sublime%20text%22,vscode,%22visual%20studio%20code%22,intellij https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

skocznymroczny 7y ago

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%22how%20to%20use%20vim%22,%22how%20to%20exit%20vim%22 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...