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Judge colludes with prossecution Judge sends political adversary to prison Judge now minister in current administration, arguably in power due to his imprison

Judge colludes with prossecution Judge sends political adversary to prison Judge now minister in current administration, arguably in power due to his imprisoning the aforementioned political adversary

hu3 7y ago
That Judge was operating at the lowest tier of the Judiciary when he sentenced Lula. The sentence was appealed many times all the way up to the Supreme Court and along the way, other Judges not only agreed that Lula is a criminal but also increased his initial sentence.
- gchamonlive 7y ago
  Questioning the sentence and the judges and prossecution involved is totally NOT the same as defending the prossecuted. I don't get how many people jump to this conclusion. It is virtually impossible to defend Lula. There is enough proof out there to back this. No. What I am questioning the the timeline of events, that fit too conveniently for the current president and the judge, that is now a minister. I hope this clarifies your confusion.
  - hu3 7y ago
    Or perhaps the president appointed the judge as Minister of Justice in recognition for putting in jail many of the most powerful politics and businessman in Brazil. Makes perfect sense, that judge is a national hero.
    - gchamonlive 7y ago
      Sure, whatever lie makes you sleep better at night. I am not taking that from you. However, if we were to be honest, that would be something pretty naive to trust, given first the current president political history and second his current actions, portraiting a figure that has not only no interest in the well being of the country, being that in international politics or in internal affairs, but also no interest in continuing the aforementioned investigations. A quick look in the current unfolding events from the past months can show that.
      - hu3 7y ago
        I was being honest already. Clearly our political views don't align but next time try arguing with facts instead of moving goal posts. As for my sleep, it's better than ever now that I know the largest criminal organization ever in Brazil no longer controls the country.
29athrowaway 7y ago
So do you truly believe that Lula has no responsibility in the Odebrecht case?
- gchamonlive 7y ago
  I haven't said that anywhere in my post. I have already addressed this kind of misinterpretation in a fellow user's comment

hu3 7y ago

That Judge was operating at the lowest tier of the Judiciary when he sentenced Lula. The sentence was appealed many times all the way up to the Supreme Court and along the way, other Judges not only agreed that Lula is a criminal but also increased his initial sentence.

gchamonlive 7y ago
Questioning the sentence and the judges and prossecution involved is totally NOT the same as defending the prossecuted. I don't get how many people jump to this conclusion. It is virtually impossible to defend Lula. There is enough proof out there to back this. No. What I am questioning the the timeline of events, that fit too conveniently for the current president and the judge, that is now a minister. I hope this clarifies your confusion.
- hu3 7y ago
  Or perhaps the president appointed the judge as Minister of Justice in recognition for putting in jail many of the most powerful politics and businessman in Brazil. Makes perfect sense, that judge is a national hero.
  - gchamonlive 7y ago
    Sure, whatever lie makes you sleep better at night. I am not taking that from you. However, if we were to be honest, that would be something pretty naive to trust, given first the current president political history and second his current actions, portraiting a figure that has not only no interest in the well being of the country, being that in international politics or in internal affairs, but also no interest in continuing the aforementioned investigations. A quick look in the current unfolding events from the past months can show that.
    - hu3 7y ago
      I was being honest already. Clearly our political views don't align but next time try arguing with facts instead of moving goal posts. As for my sleep, it's better than ever now that I know the largest criminal organization ever in Brazil no longer controls the country.

29athrowaway 7y ago

So do you truly believe that Lula has no responsibility in the Odebrecht case?

gchamonlive 7y ago
I haven't said that anywhere in my post. I have already addressed this kind of misinterpretation in a fellow user's comment