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HP lost my respect and recommendations for anything consumer level or that could be consumer level years ago, but I did like their largish printers (M600 series

HP lost my respect and recommendations for anything consumer level or that could be consumer level years ago, but I did like their largish printers (M600 series). Maybe not up to the standards of the older business LaserJet printers but still pretty good. The thing that made me decide against HP products was the change on server firmware updates (bios, management controllers, etc) that basically requires an active warranty or service contract for updates. I'm just waiting to see a wormable iLO exploit that's easy to patch... As long as you're a paying HP customer.

killjoywashere 7y ago
As a diver, my personal favorite HP-related disaster is documented in Last Breath (1), where a saturation diver was almost killed when they support ship's dynamic positioning system failed. Ultimately, the solution was to reboot all the control computers. You have to pay attention, but they clearly show (I don't think it's an accident or a prop) that they're rebooting HP machines. That had to make somebody in Palo Alto flinch. (1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Breath_(2019_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Breath_(2019_film)
jabl 7y ago
> The thing that made me decide against HP products was the change on server firmware updates (bios, management controllers, etc) that basically requires an active warranty or service contract for updates. I'm just waiting to see a wormable iLO exploit that's easy to patch... As long as you're a paying HP customer. LVFS is seeing some success in consumer stuff. I hope it starts to catch on for server gear as well. Then we can start requiring firmware update via LVFS [1] as a hard requirement in RFP's and wave goodbye to these kinds of shenanigans. [1] https://fwupd.org/ https://fwupd.org/ . This uses UEFI Capsule support to distribute and install the updates, similar to what apparently Windows is also doing these days.

killjoywashere 7y ago

As a diver, my personal favorite HP-related disaster is documented in Last Breath (1), where a saturation diver was almost killed when they support ship's dynamic positioning system failed. Ultimately, the solution was to reboot all the control computers. You have to pay attention, but they clearly show (I don't think it's an accident or a prop) that they're rebooting HP machines. That had to make somebody in Palo Alto flinch. (1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Breath_(2019_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Breath_(2019_film)

jabl 7y ago

> The thing that made me decide against HP products was the change on server firmware updates (bios, management controllers, etc) that basically requires an active warranty or service contract for updates. I'm just waiting to see a wormable iLO exploit that's easy to patch... As long as you're a paying HP customer. LVFS is seeing some success in consumer stuff. I hope it starts to catch on for server gear as well. Then we can start requiring firmware update via LVFS [1] as a hard requirement in RFP's and wave goodbye to these kinds of shenanigans. [1] https://fwupd.org/ https://fwupd.org/ . This uses UEFI Capsule support to distribute and install the updates, similar to what apparently Windows is also doing these days.