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> and as a professional you'll have to deal with it. Yes, by not supporting those users. If you want to use IE 11 that's fine by me, doesn't mean I need to go

by tcd 7y ago

> and as a professional you'll have to deal with it. Yes, by not supporting those users. If you want to use IE 11 that's fine by me, doesn't mean I need to go out of my way to ensure it works for them.

Carpetsmoker 7y ago
As a person for your hobby project or whatnot? Sure. As a business? Yeah nah, that's not how it works. Imagine turning away 7% of your customers at the door of your shop.
- yakshaving_jgt 7y ago
  In some industries it's much more than 7%. Luckily once IE11 is EOL (which IIRC is in January) I'll be able to block requests from that browser, but only because I can use the argument "this browser is EOL and using it is a security risk." Not every business has that luxury.
  - mythrwy 7y ago
    https://gabriellaroche.dev/ie11-death-countdown/ https://gabriellaroche.dev/ie11-death-countdown/ I really hope you are right about January and this counter is wrong. In the meantime I'm not worrying about IE anymore (have luxury of not working at bigco and can say, "sorry, we don't support that").
    - yakshaving_jgt 7y ago
      Ah, crap. It’s IE10 I was thinking of, so it’s still IE11 I’ll be suffering with for some years.
    - JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
      I very well might be in a management role before I have to stop worrying about IE 11 directly. This countdown couldn't come sooner.
  - yyyk 7y ago
    IE10 will be EOL in January. IE11 will only be EOL in 2025...
  - aflag 7y ago
    It's all just a matter of cost x profit. If supporting those 7% doesn't make up for the the cost of supporting them, then it doesn't make sense to support them. However, if supporting them is worth more than the cost to do so, then it'd be silly not to.
dmitriid 7y ago
At a previous job ignoring these users meant ignoring the size of a small country monthly.
earthboundkid 7y ago
Support them the same way you support users without JavaScript. There will always be users without JS, so you need to deal with that. Treat old browsers as just another browser without JavaScript. It’s very easy to do if you use script type=module.

by tcd 7y ago

Carpetsmoker 7y ago

As a person for your hobby project or whatnot? Sure. As a business? Yeah nah, that's not how it works. Imagine turning away 7% of your customers at the door of your shop.

yakshaving_jgt 7y ago
In some industries it's much more than 7%. Luckily once IE11 is EOL (which IIRC is in January) I'll be able to block requests from that browser, but only because I can use the argument "this browser is EOL and using it is a security risk." Not every business has that luxury.
- mythrwy 7y ago
  https://gabriellaroche.dev/ie11-death-countdown/ https://gabriellaroche.dev/ie11-death-countdown/ I really hope you are right about January and this counter is wrong. In the meantime I'm not worrying about IE anymore (have luxury of not working at bigco and can say, "sorry, we don't support that").
  - yakshaving_jgt 7y ago
    Ah, crap. It’s IE10 I was thinking of, so it’s still IE11 I’ll be suffering with for some years.
  - JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
    I very well might be in a management role before I have to stop worrying about IE 11 directly. This countdown couldn't come sooner.
- yyyk 7y ago
  IE10 will be EOL in January. IE11 will only be EOL in 2025...
- aflag 7y ago
  It's all just a matter of cost x profit. If supporting those 7% doesn't make up for the the cost of supporting them, then it doesn't make sense to support them. However, if supporting them is worth more than the cost to do so, then it'd be silly not to.

dmitriid 7y ago

At a previous job ignoring these users meant ignoring the size of a small country monthly.

earthboundkid 7y ago

Support them the same way you support users without JavaScript. There will always be users without JS, so you need to deal with that. Treat old browsers as just another browser without JavaScript. It’s very easy to do if you use script type=module.