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Apparently people have forgotten that China is governed by a communist dictatorship, or they wouldn't be surprised by this behavior.
by sverige 7y ago
Apparently people have forgotten that China is governed by a communist dictatorship, or they wouldn't be surprised by this behavior.
- est 7y agoThat's why people invest in Vietnam instead. Oh wait...
- guelo 7y agoI would call it a capitalist dictatorship at this point.
- sverige 7y agoKleptocracy != Capitalism
- AsyncAwait 7y agoAuthoritarianism != Socialism
- sverige 7y agoThey call themselves communists and explicitly avow Marxism. If they're not socialists / communists, no one is.
- AsyncAwait 7y agoI was specifically responding to the claim that crony capitalism is not representative of capitalism and made a counterpoint of how you could defend almost any system that way. Nonetheless, it's pretty well accepted that China is more capitalist today than ever, that's not really controversial.
- stretchwithme 7y agoCrony capitalist dictatorship.
- wallace_f 7y agoNot sure why you are downvoted. China is exactly a kind of cronyist, state capitalist system.
- luckylion 7y agoMy guess is that few people see examples of larger capitalist countries that are not cronyist, state capitalist. The US, UK, France, Germany etc certainly aren't examples.
- godelski 7y agoThis is why people often talk past one another when they say "capitalism". Because it just one thing to one person and cronyism to another. Where both capitalism and socialism, big surprise, are very broad terms.
- luckylion 7y agoThat's true, and tribalism plays into it as well: virtually everything is fine where I'm from, it's just those people that pervert the system and have their princelings or revolving doors between government and big business. Staying clear of the boundaries of one's bubble make it easy, too.
- stretchwithme 7y agoIt's easier to leave a small country. The distance from any city in it to another country is lower. You can hop in a boat in Singapore or Hong Kong, but that is much harder to in East Turkestan. Then there is the likelihood of colonization or invasion in general and the ability of ideas to spread. Competition between governments is more intense. It may be Europe got its technological advantage and property rights evolved more quickly there because of more competition between countries. But in the center of a large continent, change is slower.
- chrischen 7y agoAuthoritarian regime... actually much like Singapore. Let’s not forget South Korea was literally a dictatorship up until 80s. Only difference was China was a lot poorer so people shit on it all the time and find them less relatable and respectable. And also it isn’t under the US’s thumb.
- cuspycode 7y agoLet's not forget that the chinese communist party is currently performing three different genocides simultaneously: genocide against tibetans, genocide against uyghurs, and genocide against falun gong practitioners. So it's on a different level when compared to most other authoritarian regimes.
- chrischen 7y agoWhat is this genocide? You mean like how the Nazi's killed the Jewish people? Because that type of genocide is definitely not happening.