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Its interesting how completely different the numbers are on your site vs everything else I've ever seen. Why do you think that is? Example: https://www.indeed

Its interesting how completely different the numbers are on your site vs everything else I've ever seen. Why do you think that is? Example: https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Google/salaries https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Google/salaries vs https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Google/ https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Google/

jvm 7y ago
Not sure where indeed is getting their numbers, but I can assure you levels.fyi are well calibrated. Glassdoor also has weirdly low estimated salaries.
- sgt101 7y ago
  Has anyone done the sums of the numbers of people on l1->l9 vs the mean salaries estimated? What does the estimated salary bill for each of these companies come out as and how does that stack up vs. their public declarations?
  - Zaheer 7y ago
    I haven't done that specific analysis but stock based compensation is given out in public quarterly financial statements. See here for example that Google spent ~9.35 Billion (!) in stock compensation last year: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/stock-based-compensation https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/stoc...
- sweeneyrod 7y ago
  Glassdoor tends to underestimate because a lot of the datapoints are from several years ago.
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Thorrez 7y ago
Is it possible Indeed is only counting base salary, and not stock and bonus?
- drewg123 7y ago
  That's what I thought, then I looked at their estimates for Netflix Senior SW Engineer and found them to be similarly way , way too low. At Netflix, bulk of total comp is base salary -- bonuses and stock grants are just not done.
Zaheer 7y ago
Couple reasons. Some folks already mentioned below. - Manual review - we review all data to filter extreme outliers and spam. - By-Level info - we collect much more info per data point meaning we can hone in on title / role deeply. - No Incentive - Not specific to Indeed but there is not incentive to submit your data. Everyone has access to data whether you submit or not. This along with the form being long leads to less spam. - Staleness - we age out old data aggressively - Total Comp - we're centered around total compensation. Most sites focus on salary which for tech jobs can sometimes be smallest portion of comp. - Userbase - we're quite popular with tech demographic and have been able to field much wider range of data from folks at all levels due to it. ...there may be other reasons but these are the largest I can think of off hand
chillacy 7y ago
From talking with friends, the levels.fyi estimates are nearly perfect, indeed and glassdoor are way off.

jvm 7y ago

Not sure where indeed is getting their numbers, but I can assure you levels.fyi are well calibrated. Glassdoor also has weirdly low estimated salaries.

sgt101 7y ago
Has anyone done the sums of the numbers of people on l1->l9 vs the mean salaries estimated? What does the estimated salary bill for each of these companies come out as and how does that stack up vs. their public declarations?
- Zaheer 7y ago
  I haven't done that specific analysis but stock based compensation is given out in public quarterly financial statements. See here for example that Google spent ~9.35 Billion (!) in stock compensation last year: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/stock-based-compensation https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/stoc...
sweeneyrod 7y ago
Glassdoor tends to underestimate because a lot of the datapoints are from several years ago.
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Thorrez 7y ago

Is it possible Indeed is only counting base salary, and not stock and bonus?

drewg123 7y ago
That's what I thought, then I looked at their estimates for Netflix Senior SW Engineer and found them to be similarly way , way too low. At Netflix, bulk of total comp is base salary -- bonuses and stock grants are just not done.

Zaheer 7y ago

Couple reasons. Some folks already mentioned below. - Manual review - we review all data to filter extreme outliers and spam. - By-Level info - we collect much more info per data point meaning we can hone in on title / role deeply. - No Incentive - Not specific to Indeed but there is not incentive to submit your data. Everyone has access to data whether you submit or not. This along with the form being long leads to less spam. - Staleness - we age out old data aggressively - Total Comp - we're centered around total compensation. Most sites focus on salary which for tech jobs can sometimes be smallest portion of comp. - Userbase - we're quite popular with tech demographic and have been able to field much wider range of data from folks at all levels due to it. ...there may be other reasons but these are the largest I can think of off hand

chillacy 7y ago

From talking with friends, the levels.fyi estimates are nearly perfect, indeed and glassdoor are way off.