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Honest question: how should we take Bloomberg articles mainly based on opinion or original investigations ? I don’t study in the US so have no opinion about US

by hrktb 7y ago

Honest question: how should we take Bloomberg articles mainly based on opinion or original investigations ? I don’t study in the US so have no opinion about US college, so don’t have any way to tell if these claims are any valid. Bloomberg has an history of making bold and empty claims to rile up viewership, is it limited to tech or is it the same for the other fields they cover ?

rimliu 7y ago
I find it interesting that people now ask for an opinion about what opinion to have about someone's else opinion. I think this adds to the article.
- Throw_Away_8463 7y ago
  Well, it can be a good idea to ask others to assess something you don't know enough about, if you trust them. Hacker News is at least more trustworthy than most other online platforms.
  - mmjaa 7y ago
    There's nothing more inherently 'trustworthy' in HN than there is in Fark. What there is, is a downvote button and an understanding that, if someone says something 'unpopular to the community', the community will deal with them. This definitely speaks to the subject of the article and is very telling in and of itself: most online communities are comfort-communities. This seems to be bleeding into offline life at a rather rapid clip ..
- cb504 7y ago
  Cute, I like it. But if you live outside the USA, then it is fair to ask these questions.
Throw_Away_8463 7y ago
Not in the US either, but to me this makes the impression of taking one extreme case that is not very representative for the rest. At least on the Internet these opinions seem to be very rare, even in leftist spaces, even though English Internet users tend to be young and American. Also, this kind of opinion peace hits the zeitgeist very well, since being demonstratively opposed to identity politics seems to be fashionably right now.
- username90 7y ago
  It is a loud minority, roughly 8%. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majo... They might be more rare in the parts of the internet you visit, ie if you read about tech then you will see mostly male views in the comments.
  - Throw_Away_8463 7y ago
    Eight percent of all Americans are progressive activists. The relevant question is how many university students and university staff are. But the fact that 80 percent of the general population and 79 percent of those under 25 think that political correctness is a problem suggests that they are also a small minority among university students. On the other hand, among those with a post-graduate degree it is only 66 percent. Sadly the article doesn't say anything about under-graduate degrees.

by hrktb 7y ago

rimliu 7y ago

I find it interesting that people now ask for an opinion about what opinion to have about someone's else opinion. I think this adds to the article.

Throw_Away_8463 7y ago
Well, it can be a good idea to ask others to assess something you don't know enough about, if you trust them. Hacker News is at least more trustworthy than most other online platforms.
- mmjaa 7y ago
  There's nothing more inherently 'trustworthy' in HN than there is in Fark. What there is, is a downvote button and an understanding that, if someone says something 'unpopular to the community', the community will deal with them. This definitely speaks to the subject of the article and is very telling in and of itself: most online communities are comfort-communities. This seems to be bleeding into offline life at a rather rapid clip ..
cb504 7y ago
Cute, I like it. But if you live outside the USA, then it is fair to ask these questions.

Throw_Away_8463 7y ago

Not in the US either, but to me this makes the impression of taking one extreme case that is not very representative for the rest. At least on the Internet these opinions seem to be very rare, even in leftist spaces, even though English Internet users tend to be young and American. Also, this kind of opinion peace hits the zeitgeist very well, since being demonstratively opposed to identity politics seems to be fashionably right now.

username90 7y ago
It is a loud minority, roughly 8%. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majo... They might be more rare in the parts of the internet you visit, ie if you read about tech then you will see mostly male views in the comments.
- Throw_Away_8463 7y ago
  Eight percent of all Americans are progressive activists. The relevant question is how many university students and university staff are. But the fact that 80 percent of the general population and 79 percent of those under 25 think that political correctness is a problem suggests that they are also a small minority among university students. On the other hand, among those with a post-graduate degree it is only 66 percent. Sadly the article doesn't say anything about under-graduate degrees.