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The view is relatively extreme because of constructed social norms, but when I was 14, I had the same view, and it was shared among the peers that I associated

The view is relatively extreme because of constructed social norms, but when I was 14, I had the same view, and it was shared among the peers that I associated with. It would be hypocritical for me to say the points you quoted are abnormal, because in my experience, that's what being 14 was like. Consensual encounters between underage high school freshman and adult high school seniors are certainly different than a DHS employee, but which one is more "moral" depends on the framework you use to evaluate trust. For example, atleast DHS employees get background checks. And which of those two groups are better known for carrying out school shootings? My points are: Stallman's relatively extreme views are not absolutely extreme views; and overall, the amount of gray area in the subject makes it complicated.

asciimo 7y ago
The point of the law is to protect vulnerable minors, not liberate precocious minors. For every 14 year old who thinks that they would consent to sex with an adult, how many would not? The best way to avoid damaging minors in "the gray area" is to eliminate the gray area.
solipsism 7y ago
when I was 14, I had the same view Why would we trust a 14 year old's opinion about child sexual development and maturity? How would that be even remotely relevant? Stallman's opinions on the subject aren't relevant either, since he's far from an expert on the subject. Stallman's relatively extreme views are not absolutely extreme views; Oh boy. Absolutely extreme? How can something be absolutely extreme?
zzo38computer 7y ago
I wouldn't know about your first two paragraphs, but I can agree about the third paragraph, that "the amount of gray area in the subject makes it complicated". Yes, a lot of stuff becomes complicated because there is a lot of parts, not all of which are being considered (and many that I have not thought of).

asciimo 7y ago

The point of the law is to protect vulnerable minors, not liberate precocious minors. For every 14 year old who thinks that they would consent to sex with an adult, how many would not? The best way to avoid damaging minors in "the gray area" is to eliminate the gray area.

solipsism 7y ago

when I was 14, I had the same view Why would we trust a 14 year old's opinion about child sexual development and maturity? How would that be even remotely relevant? Stallman's opinions on the subject aren't relevant either, since he's far from an expert on the subject. Stallman's relatively extreme views are not absolutely extreme views; Oh boy. Absolutely extreme? How can something be absolutely extreme?

zzo38computer 7y ago

I wouldn't know about your first two paragraphs, but I can agree about the third paragraph, that "the amount of gray area in the subject makes it complicated". Yes, a lot of stuff becomes complicated because there is a lot of parts, not all of which are being considered (and many that I have not thought of).