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Can you point me to a 'modern war' without armies? I'm interested in what you actually think a war is?

ismail 7y ago
Not op but will take a stab. The comment was in response to: “This is hyperbole at best. Facebook does not have an army” Op was pointing out that power != war with guns “Facebook is the most powerful private entity on the earth right now” The comment was how power could be achieved via other methods of warfare-including the ability to shape conversations. Another word for this would be competition. He has a point.
- denton-scratch 7y ago
  Negative, Spock. The ability to shape conversations or to compete is not the same as making war (or you are relying on an idiosyncratic definition of "war").
  - ismail 7y ago
    It seems we are splitting hairs here on the definition of "war" and missing the actual message. Since you brought it up again. War (Noun) " - a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism - a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end - a struggle to achieve a goal: " War (Verb): " - to be in active or vigorous conflict - to carry on active hostility or contention " The point still stands. War is an isomorphism for competition, conflict and tension between parties. One could probably use something like category theory and prove it. References: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war https://www.dictionary.com/browse/war https://www.dictionary.com/browse/war
degski 7y ago
cyberwar springs to mind.
infominer 7y ago
[edit/ downvote this all you like, pretending like warfare requires guns and armies when 2 different government elections have been attacked using social media, namely Facebook.] https://www.thegreathack.com/ https://www.thegreathack.com/ > Data has surpassed oil as the world’s most valuable asset. It’s being weaponized to wage cultural and political warfare. People everywhere are in a battle for control of our most intimate personal details. From award-winning filmmakers Karim Amer and Jehane Noujaim, THE GREAT HACK uncovers the dark world of data exploitation with astounding access to the personal journeys of key players on different sides of the explosive Cambridge Analytica/Facebook data scandal.
- gdy 7y ago
  Yanks to the rescue: the secret story if how American advisers helped Yeltsin win http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html Was that an act of war against democratic Russia?
AsyncAwait 7y ago
Ask any country under crushing US sanctions.

Not op but will take a stab. The comment was in response to: “This is hyperbole at best. Facebook does not have an army” Op was pointing out that power != war with guns “Facebook is the most powerful private entity on the earth right now” The comment was how power could be achieved via other methods of warfare-including the ability to shape conversations. Another word for this would be competition. He has a point.

denton-scratch 7y ago
Negative, Spock. The ability to shape conversations or to compete is not the same as making war (or you are relying on an idiosyncratic definition of "war").
- ismail 7y ago
  It seems we are splitting hairs here on the definition of "war" and missing the actual message. Since you brought it up again. War (Noun) " - a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism - a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end - a struggle to achieve a goal: " War (Verb): " - to be in active or vigorous conflict - to carry on active hostility or contention " The point still stands. War is an isomorphism for competition, conflict and tension between parties. One could probably use something like category theory and prove it. References: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war https://www.dictionary.com/browse/war https://www.dictionary.com/browse/war

degski 7y ago

cyberwar springs to mind.

infominer 7y ago

[edit/ downvote this all you like, pretending like warfare requires guns and armies when 2 different government elections have been attacked using social media, namely Facebook.] https://www.thegreathack.com/ https://www.thegreathack.com/ > Data has surpassed oil as the world’s most valuable asset. It’s being weaponized to wage cultural and political warfare. People everywhere are in a battle for control of our most intimate personal details. From award-winning filmmakers Karim Amer and Jehane Noujaim, THE GREAT HACK uncovers the dark world of data exploitation with astounding access to the personal journeys of key players on different sides of the explosive Cambridge Analytica/Facebook data scandal.

gdy 7y ago
Yanks to the rescue: the secret story if how American advisers helped Yeltsin win http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html Was that an act of war against democratic Russia?

AsyncAwait 7y ago

Ask any country under crushing US sanctions.