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If this is true these fines are unenforceable. Parking tickets/fines are allowed in UK law for breaking the rules on public land. Parking on private land is gov

If this is true these fines are unenforceable. Parking tickets/fines are allowed in UK law for breaking the rules on public land. Parking on private land is governed by contract law. For a contract to be legally binding it needs to consist of the elements of a contract: offer, acceptance, and consideration, i.e. payment. Which UK supermarket charges for parking?

detritus 7y ago
All of them, presumably - just not directly, as an ascribed line item on your receipt.
gambiting 7y ago
Literally every single one in the UK. But it's not even supermarkets, pretty much every car park in this country works like this, I've even seen ones next to pubs and cinemas have that(made for a fun viewing of Alien + Aliens in a promotional re-release few years ago, the staff at the cinema were warning everyone that if you parked outside and are here to see both movies in one go you will be charged for overstaying as the time limit is 4 hours). And those fines are very much enforceable - as long as the conditions are listed in a public view the company can charge you for parking over the allowed time(it's a charge, not a fine technically). Clearly explained here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/parking-tickets-on-private-land-s/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/pa...
- sjtgraham 7y ago
  From your link "A court may decide that you breached a contract with the parking operator and that you must pay the charges." I don't understand how free parking satisfies the elements of a contract. There is no consideration. This would make sense if you paid for parking (thereby forming a contract) and overstayed (breach of contract). Can you explain that for me?
  - gambiting 7y ago
    I mean, what's difficult here? When you arrive at a car park there's a sign that says "by parking here, you agree to pay £70 per day of parking. The initial 3 hours are free. Your licence plate number has been recorded on entry and will be recorded on exit to determine the amount of time you spent here. If you do not agree to those terms you need to have to leave within 10 minutes of arrival". Basically by parking at someone's property you form a contract with them, as long as the terms of it are publicly and visibly displayed.

detritus 7y ago

All of them, presumably - just not directly, as an ascribed line item on your receipt.

gambiting 7y ago

Literally every single one in the UK. But it's not even supermarkets, pretty much every car park in this country works like this, I've even seen ones next to pubs and cinemas have that(made for a fun viewing of Alien + Aliens in a promotional re-release few years ago, the staff at the cinema were warning everyone that if you parked outside and are here to see both movies in one go you will be charged for overstaying as the time limit is 4 hours). And those fines are very much enforceable - as long as the conditions are listed in a public view the company can charge you for parking over the allowed time(it's a charge, not a fine technically). Clearly explained here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/parking-tickets-on-private-land-s/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/pa...

sjtgraham 7y ago
From your link "A court may decide that you breached a contract with the parking operator and that you must pay the charges." I don't understand how free parking satisfies the elements of a contract. There is no consideration. This would make sense if you paid for parking (thereby forming a contract) and overstayed (breach of contract). Can you explain that for me?
- gambiting 7y ago
  I mean, what's difficult here? When you arrive at a car park there's a sign that says "by parking here, you agree to pay £70 per day of parking. The initial 3 hours are free. Your licence plate number has been recorded on entry and will be recorded on exit to determine the amount of time you spent here. If you do not agree to those terms you need to have to leave within 10 minutes of arrival". Basically by parking at someone's property you form a contract with them, as long as the terms of it are publicly and visibly displayed.