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But the services will still have to do this, even without data collection. Otherwise, they'll get an incedent like when that lady sued mcdonalds for hot coffee

by mises 7y ago

But the services will still have to do this, even without data collection. Otherwise, they'll get an incedent like when that lady sued mcdonalds for hot coffee being hot and demanded some stupid sum of money. The legal dept will come up with some crazy ten-pager even if there's not this data sniffing in it.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> Otherwise, they'll get an incedent like when that lady sued mcdonalds for hot coffee being hot and demanded some stupid sum of money. Oooooh, you fell hook line and sinker for corporate PR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau... > Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while she underwent skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-stella-liebeck https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/... > Liebeck didn’t want to go to court. She just wanted McDonald’s to pay her medical expenses, estimated at $20,000. McDonald’s only offered $800, leading her to file a lawsuit in 1994.
- mises 7y ago
  > hospitalized for eight days Right, but she was scalded by hot liquid. It is customary for hot coffee to be pretty hot, even close to boiling. I don't see how that was "corporate PR", or how McDonald's was at fault. The fact that others held coffee at 140 and McD held it at 180 doesn't sound like a reason it owed six figures. > She just wanted McDonald's to pay her medical expenses Right, but she spilled the coffee. Why is McDonald's liable for her slip-up? The jury decided that the warning on the cup wasn't large enough, but I'm not sure that makes sense as people habitually ignore warnings any way. They're printed on so many things that it's hard not to. I doubt a larger warning would have made a difference. This is like some one purchasing a knife, cutting himself, and complaining that the manufacturer is at fault because there was not a sufficiently large warning that "knife is sharp".
  - ryacko 7y ago
    Imagine if food was mechanical. Imagine if there was a switch that could be flipped changing it from edible to inedible and dangerous. Drinking coffee at 180 degrees could kill you.
    - mises 7y ago
      There are plenty of dangerous things we purchase. Imagine if there was a switch that could be flipped changing it from edible to inedible and dangerous. Not cooking pork to 165 could kill you. I still think it's BS to sue a pork mfg.

by mises 7y ago

ceejayoz 7y ago

> Otherwise, they'll get an incedent like when that lady sued mcdonalds for hot coffee being hot and demanded some stupid sum of money. Oooooh, you fell hook line and sinker for corporate PR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau... > Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while she underwent skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-stella-liebeck https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/... > Liebeck didn’t want to go to court. She just wanted McDonald’s to pay her medical expenses, estimated at $20,000. McDonald’s only offered $800, leading her to file a lawsuit in 1994.

mises 7y ago
> hospitalized for eight days Right, but she was scalded by hot liquid. It is customary for hot coffee to be pretty hot, even close to boiling. I don't see how that was "corporate PR", or how McDonald's was at fault. The fact that others held coffee at 140 and McD held it at 180 doesn't sound like a reason it owed six figures. > She just wanted McDonald's to pay her medical expenses Right, but she spilled the coffee. Why is McDonald's liable for her slip-up? The jury decided that the warning on the cup wasn't large enough, but I'm not sure that makes sense as people habitually ignore warnings any way. They're printed on so many things that it's hard not to. I doubt a larger warning would have made a difference. This is like some one purchasing a knife, cutting himself, and complaining that the manufacturer is at fault because there was not a sufficiently large warning that "knife is sharp".
- ryacko 7y ago
  Imagine if food was mechanical. Imagine if there was a switch that could be flipped changing it from edible to inedible and dangerous. Drinking coffee at 180 degrees could kill you.
  - mises 7y ago
    There are plenty of dangerous things we purchase. Imagine if there was a switch that could be flipped changing it from edible to inedible and dangerous. Not cooking pork to 165 could kill you. I still think it's BS to sue a pork mfg.