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Yeah, but have you noticed over the last few years it's getting better and better (i.e. less and less nonsense). This is the beginning of machine reasoning and

Yeah, but have you noticed over the last few years it's getting better and better (i.e. less and less nonsense). This is the beginning of machine reasoning and procedural storytelling

ravenstine 7y ago
The grammar might be better as is the sentence structure(still pretty bad), but from an information/story sense it's still about as gibberish as anything like this created before. Until AI can actually experience context, I really doubt there's any way to teach it to generate convincing stories without tons of supervision.
- LanceH 7y ago
  I've noticed that over the last 15 years, the teen supernatural romance section has grown from a shelf to rack to a row.
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Chuck Tingle's NSFW dinosaur tinglers, bigfoot tinglers, unicorn tinglers, living object tinglers, and living place tinglers have become enormously popular. https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html Unlike the output of a neural network, his surrealistic enigmatically erotic prose is somehow coherent and uniformly stylized, makes perfect sense in terms of its own internal logic, and consistently rationalizes and explains even the most absurd topics he imagines. Vox has covered his brilliant work: https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck-tingle-fake-explained https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck... >The secret behind internet erotica icon Chuck Tingle: his own life may be the best story he's ever written: Behind the surreal performance art, the gay dinosaur porn, and the political erotica may lie a beautiful reality. >The list of things that Tingle’s narrators have had sex with includes, but is not limited to: the state of California; glazed donuts; the Dress; Bigfoot pirates; a gay unicorn biker and a gay unicorn colonel, though not simultaneously; Donald Trump’s attempt to avoid plagiarism accusations; Starbucks Christmas cups; a billionaire triceratops; a T. rex comedian and a clan of triceratops rappers (stand-ins for Bill Murray and the Wu Tang Clan); ghost boats; velociraptors from outer space; a secret-agent brontosaurus; the White House; the British pound; a plane; a train; a vampire night bus; his own books; press about his own books; existential dread; his own concept of linear time. So much of it is also biting social commentary and political satire about current events and controversies, like "Pounded In The Butt By The Sentient Manifestation Of My Own Ignorant Climate Change Denial": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ Or "Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union": https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/ https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implicati... He counter-trolled the alt-right "Rabid Puppies" Hugo Award trolls: https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ And wrote "Slammed in the Butt by my own Hugo Award Nomination": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE Here's another Vox article about his troll of the alt-right "Rabid Puppies": https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-award-rabid-puppies-explained https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-awa... >Satirical erotica author Chuck Tingle's massive troll of conservative sci-fi fans, explained: Right-wing sci-fi writers tried to delegitimize the Hugo Awards by nominating a writer no one took seriously. Here's how he took them all by surprise. This video explains his Literary Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY >The Literary Genius of Chuck Tingle: Chuck Tingle is an author of some of the best erotica of our time. From dinosaurs to unicorns to political satire, his writing never fails to elicit a sharp tingle down the spine.
notahacker 7y ago
There's not much reasoning going on in those samples. It can stick a subject input you provide it into a sentence which is sometimes serendiptously funny (and usually grammatically correct tbf, although it looks like that's mostly because it heavily reuses direct quotes from its source material), but it can't handle the basics of game construction like responding properly to a request to go north after telling you there's a path to the north
- malux85 7y ago
  That’s why I said “the beginning” the first step is forming a representation of thought, so things like the embedding matrix inside word2vec form “thought vectors” - self organised representations of high level conceptual ideas, generalised to all knowledge. And it turns out these vectors work under linear algebra (e.g. They are commutative) I think these will form the basis of machine reasoning in future
- bluntfang 7y ago
  >There's not much reasoning going on in those samples. but you agree there is some? that's the significance.
  - juped 7y ago
    There is clearly no reasoning going on in those samples. Computers have been able to reason for longer than they've been able to dream, anyway.
    - bluntfang 7y ago
      >There is clearly no reasoning going on in those samples. other people in this thread don't hold that opinion.
- cmroanirgo 7y ago
  My favorite pastime playing MUDs in the early 90s was to do dumb stuff. > Eat horse > YOU CAN'T DO THAT > Eat horse > YOU FEEL SICK What I read in this article doesn't show much I (of AI) to me, but highlights how 30yrs ago there was a lot of creative thinking to generate an open seeming environment.
mratzloff 7y ago
We're always at the beginning of the AI revolution.
- firethief 7y ago
  Exponential growth is like that

Yeah, but have you noticed over the last few years it's getting better and better (i.e. less and less nonsense). This is the beginning of machine reasoning and procedural storytelling

ravenstine 7y ago

The grammar might be better as is the sentence structure(still pretty bad), but from an information/story sense it's still about as gibberish as anything like this created before. Until AI can actually experience context, I really doubt there's any way to teach it to generate convincing stories without tons of supervision.

LanceH 7y ago
I've noticed that over the last 15 years, the teen supernatural romance section has grown from a shelf to rack to a row.
- DonHopkins 7y ago
  Chuck Tingle's NSFW dinosaur tinglers, bigfoot tinglers, unicorn tinglers, living object tinglers, and living place tinglers have become enormously popular. https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html Unlike the output of a neural network, his surrealistic enigmatically erotic prose is somehow coherent and uniformly stylized, makes perfect sense in terms of its own internal logic, and consistently rationalizes and explains even the most absurd topics he imagines. Vox has covered his brilliant work: https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck-tingle-fake-explained https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck... >The secret behind internet erotica icon Chuck Tingle: his own life may be the best story he's ever written: Behind the surreal performance art, the gay dinosaur porn, and the political erotica may lie a beautiful reality. >The list of things that Tingle’s narrators have had sex with includes, but is not limited to: the state of California; glazed donuts; the Dress; Bigfoot pirates; a gay unicorn biker and a gay unicorn colonel, though not simultaneously; Donald Trump’s attempt to avoid plagiarism accusations; Starbucks Christmas cups; a billionaire triceratops; a T. rex comedian and a clan of triceratops rappers (stand-ins for Bill Murray and the Wu Tang Clan); ghost boats; velociraptors from outer space; a secret-agent brontosaurus; the White House; the British pound; a plane; a train; a vampire night bus; his own books; press about his own books; existential dread; his own concept of linear time. So much of it is also biting social commentary and political satire about current events and controversies, like "Pounded In The Butt By The Sentient Manifestation Of My Own Ignorant Climate Change Denial": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ Or "Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union": https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/ https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implicati... He counter-trolled the alt-right "Rabid Puppies" Hugo Award trolls: https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ And wrote "Slammed in the Butt by my own Hugo Award Nomination": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE Here's another Vox article about his troll of the alt-right "Rabid Puppies": https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-award-rabid-puppies-explained https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-awa... >Satirical erotica author Chuck Tingle's massive troll of conservative sci-fi fans, explained: Right-wing sci-fi writers tried to delegitimize the Hugo Awards by nominating a writer no one took seriously. Here's how he took them all by surprise. This video explains his Literary Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY >The Literary Genius of Chuck Tingle: Chuck Tingle is an author of some of the best erotica of our time. From dinosaurs to unicorns to political satire, his writing never fails to elicit a sharp tingle down the spine.

notahacker 7y ago

There's not much reasoning going on in those samples. It can stick a subject input you provide it into a sentence which is sometimes serendiptously funny (and usually grammatically correct tbf, although it looks like that's mostly because it heavily reuses direct quotes from its source material), but it can't handle the basics of game construction like responding properly to a request to go north after telling you there's a path to the north

malux85 7y ago
That’s why I said “the beginning” the first step is forming a representation of thought, so things like the embedding matrix inside word2vec form “thought vectors” - self organised representations of high level conceptual ideas, generalised to all knowledge. And it turns out these vectors work under linear algebra (e.g. They are commutative) I think these will form the basis of machine reasoning in future
bluntfang 7y ago
>There's not much reasoning going on in those samples. but you agree there is some? that's the significance.
- juped 7y ago
  There is clearly no reasoning going on in those samples. Computers have been able to reason for longer than they've been able to dream, anyway.
  - bluntfang 7y ago
    >There is clearly no reasoning going on in those samples. other people in this thread don't hold that opinion.
cmroanirgo 7y ago
My favorite pastime playing MUDs in the early 90s was to do dumb stuff. > Eat horse > YOU CAN'T DO THAT > Eat horse > YOU FEEL SICK What I read in this article doesn't show much I (of AI) to me, but highlights how 30yrs ago there was a lot of creative thinking to generate an open seeming environment.

mratzloff 7y ago

We're always at the beginning of the AI revolution.

firethief 7y ago
Exponential growth is like that