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They should be absolutely bankrupted. And criminally prosecuted.

by jdkee 7y ago

dillondoyle 7y ago
I also hope society starts blacklisting: museums, society events, and NYC life. That will hurt them just as much as the money. The wife just tried to pay Courtney Love (yeah talk about drugs) 250k to attend her fashion show it's gross. Provably false advertising = fraud. Paying DRs to prescribe and push false information = fraud/bribery. I am doubtful, but I hope the recent release of coordination comms on the Marino bill and response to block DEA enforcement of laws helps a RICO case. Imagine if all the big banks got together to figure out how to help each other get out of KYC. And they are repeating the exact same playbook in India right as we speak. It makes me very angry.
- scottlocklin 7y ago
  Someone tell Jeff Dean he should be ashamed of himself. https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1093953731756867584 https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1093953731756867584
  - arthurcolle 7y ago
    "I appreciate your thoughts. However, I'm not involved in organizing the colloquium, and don't know the origin of the name of the event." -Jeff Dean
    - scottlocklin 7y ago
      OK I guess you were just following orders, Jeff.
simplecomplex 7y ago
Do you think doctors should be criminally prosecuted, along with the AMA? After all, they allow the prescription of OxyContin and physicians are the only ones who actually prescribe them. The FDA also regulates the sale of OxyContin. If doctors prescribe harmful drugs without evaluating their efficacy and without questioning the marketing, aren’t they responsible ? They are ultimately the ones “pushing” OxyContin after all.
- i_am_nomad 7y ago
  Doctors have been and should be prosecuted.
  - simplecomplex 7y ago
    And the AMA? The FDA? Should doctors not be allowed to prescribe OxyContin? Very weird to me that the focus is on the people least responsible. Doctors, FDA, AMA all have to approve the prescription of OxyContin. The whole point of the FDA is to evaluate drugs using science instead of marketing. If one accepts that Purdue is the party most responsible for the opioid crisis then one must consider doctors, the AMA, and the FDA all incompetent idiots, right?
    - threeseed 7y ago
      This really isn't a hard concept. OxyContin is a perfectly legitimate drug and it is reasonable for the FDA and AMA to sign off on its use. What isn't legitimate is doctors and pharmacists prescribing the drug over and over again when there was no reason to.
      - loeg 7y ago
        > What isn't legitimate is doctors and pharmacists prescribing the drug over and over again when there was no reason to. I.e., "pill mills."
- loeg 7y ago
  > If doctors prescribe harmful drugs without evaluating their efficacy Doctors are highly trained specialists with limited time, and no, their job isn't to evaluate drug efficacy and safety. That's the FDA's job, and yes, to some extent the FDA failed here.

They should be absolutely bankrupted. And criminally prosecuted.

by jdkee 7y ago

They should be absolutely bankrupted. And criminally prosecuted.

I also hope society starts blacklisting: museums, society events, and NYC life. That will hurt them just as much as the money. The wife just tried to pay Courtney Love (yeah talk about drugs) 250k to attend her fashion show it's gross. Provably false advertising = fraud. Paying DRs to prescribe and push false information = fraud/bribery. I am doubtful, but I hope the recent release of coordination comms on the Marino bill and response to block DEA enforcement of laws helps a RICO case. Imagine if all the big banks got together to figure out how to help each other get out of KYC. And they are repeating the exact same playbook in India right as we speak. It makes me very angry.

scottlocklin 7y ago
Someone tell Jeff Dean he should be ashamed of himself. https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1093953731756867584 https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1093953731756867584
- arthurcolle 7y ago
  "I appreciate your thoughts. However, I'm not involved in organizing the colloquium, and don't know the origin of the name of the event." -Jeff Dean
  - scottlocklin 7y ago
    OK I guess you were just following orders, Jeff.

simplecomplex 7y ago

Do you think doctors should be criminally prosecuted, along with the AMA? After all, they allow the prescription of OxyContin and physicians are the only ones who actually prescribe them. The FDA also regulates the sale of OxyContin. If doctors prescribe harmful drugs without evaluating their efficacy and without questioning the marketing, aren’t they responsible ? They are ultimately the ones “pushing” OxyContin after all.

i_am_nomad 7y ago
Doctors have been and should be prosecuted.
- simplecomplex 7y ago
  And the AMA? The FDA? Should doctors not be allowed to prescribe OxyContin? Very weird to me that the focus is on the people least responsible. Doctors, FDA, AMA all have to approve the prescription of OxyContin. The whole point of the FDA is to evaluate drugs using science instead of marketing. If one accepts that Purdue is the party most responsible for the opioid crisis then one must consider doctors, the AMA, and the FDA all incompetent idiots, right?
  - threeseed 7y ago
    This really isn't a hard concept. OxyContin is a perfectly legitimate drug and it is reasonable for the FDA and AMA to sign off on its use. What isn't legitimate is doctors and pharmacists prescribing the drug over and over again when there was no reason to.
    - loeg 7y ago
      > What isn't legitimate is doctors and pharmacists prescribing the drug over and over again when there was no reason to. I.e., "pill mills."
loeg 7y ago
> If doctors prescribe harmful drugs without evaluating their efficacy Doctors are highly trained specialists with limited time, and no, their job isn't to evaluate drug efficacy and safety. That's the FDA's job, and yes, to some extent the FDA failed here.