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Terraform is okay, if you don't value things like "loops that aren't an awful hack", but in 2019 Pulumi is significantly better and their cloud-agnostic impleme

Terraform is okay, if you don't value things like "loops that aren't an awful hack", but in 2019 Pulumi is significantly better and their cloud-agnostic implementation actually kinda works okay.

ndarwincorn 7y ago
We should make an effort to redefine how we use 'infrastructure-as-code', because right now Pulumi/Troposphere/Azure PowerShell and Ansible/Terraform/etc. are indistinguishable when viewed that way, despite the former being much more useful. Infrastructure-as-verisonable-flat-configuration-files should not be thought of as infrastructure-as-code.
LIV2 7y ago
Haven't heard of Pulumi before your comment but will be sure to check it out now :)
snlnspc 7y ago
Pulumi would be perfect if the community edition was simply self hosted without support vs free with a single user only. At a stingy small org, I have no hope of ever using it instead of simply installing Terraform when the starter edition excludes secrets management and the API.
- eropple 7y ago
  It's a bit rocky and I've been filing bugs to help, but S3 state support is strictly no worse than Terraform's and supports secrets just fine.
  - snlnspc 7y ago
    That's good to hear! Admittedly the main issue for us is convincing others that 1 user at $50/month is justifiable.
    - eropple 7y ago
      S3 support's free. It definitely works well enough.