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...well, I thought that the official narrative was actually "Huawei spies for China". But if it's not, what is the official reason for the embargo then? https:

...well, I thought that the official narrative was actually "Huawei spies for China". But if it's not, what is the official reason for the embargo then? https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w49b/huawei-surveillance-no-evidence https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w49b/huawei-surveillanc...

kube-system 7y ago
It's not. Tense is important here. From the first sentence of your article, emphasis mine: > American telecom companies are being pressured by the government to avoid doing business with Chinese hardware manufacturer Huawei due to concerns that the Chinese government would use Huawei devices to spy on Americans. US authorities have not said Huawei has done anything nefarious. Almost all concerns are about what could or would happen. Someone tasked with national security recommendations must consider the future scenarios that could unfold as a result of present-state policy. This is why countries around the world have long considered basics like agriculture as an essential component national security. This isn't because they think other countries are poisoning their food during times of peace, it's because a reliance on basic needs gives excessive power to the country supplying it. I highly suggest reading some actual official reports to get a non-clickbait version of the argument: https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/huawei-zte%20investigative%20report%20(final).pdf https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligenc...
- klingonopera 7y ago
  > Almost all concerns are about what could or would happen. ...which is why they now want to show the source code. Where does this imply, that that implies, that backdoors have been planted in the past, from which you suppose a straw-man argument?
  - kube-system 7y ago
    Networking hardware requires continued security updates and support for secure operation. The current source code has no relevance to this concern. You should read the report I posted -- You'll find that there are zero concerns in it about problems with Huawei's current code. An offer to audit the current source would only be relevant to a concern with the current source code.

kube-system 7y ago

It's not. Tense is important here. From the first sentence of your article, emphasis mine: > American telecom companies are being pressured by the government to avoid doing business with Chinese hardware manufacturer Huawei due to concerns that the Chinese government would use Huawei devices to spy on Americans. US authorities have not said Huawei has done anything nefarious. Almost all concerns are about what could or would happen. Someone tasked with national security recommendations must consider the future scenarios that could unfold as a result of present-state policy. This is why countries around the world have long considered basics like agriculture as an essential component national security. This isn't because they think other countries are poisoning their food during times of peace, it's because a reliance on basic needs gives excessive power to the country supplying it. I highly suggest reading some actual official reports to get a non-clickbait version of the argument: https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/huawei-zte%20investigative%20report%20(final).pdf https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligenc...

klingonopera 7y ago
> Almost all concerns are about what could or would happen. ...which is why they now want to show the source code. Where does this imply, that that implies, that backdoors have been planted in the past, from which you suppose a straw-man argument?
- kube-system 7y ago
  Networking hardware requires continued security updates and support for secure operation. The current source code has no relevance to this concern. You should read the report I posted -- You'll find that there are zero concerns in it about problems with Huawei's current code. An offer to audit the current source would only be relevant to a concern with the current source code.