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This isn't a disagreement, but I was thinking the other day that the most widespread practical (non entertainment) AR app has got to be backup cameras and displ

This isn't a disagreement, but I was thinking the other day that the most widespread practical (non entertainment) AR app has got to be backup cameras and displays in cars. Modern ones show both the actual live view + a composited on graphic of where your current backup line will take you based on the tire angle, etc.

misterprime 7y ago
I wouldn't have categorized this as AR, but perhaps you're right. Would this instead be called a "heads up display"? I guess not, since it's not something that's shown on the windows you're looking through.
- pathartl 7y ago
  I'd say it's more of a HUD. If there was a 3D render of where walls might be or bumps might be, then I'd consider that AR.
  - myself248 7y ago
    But it's the literal opposite of heads-up; you lower your view and stare at the radio to see the camera. If you were looking at the mirror and it was adding to the normal reflection you're already seeing, that would be heads-up.
  - mycall 7y ago
    Technically, a wrist watch is AR since it is augmenting your reality with information.
- sixstringtheory 7y ago
  I would agree this is AR. It's similar to the AR introduced in sports broadcasts that overlayed first-down lines or field goal long-distance records onto football fields, hockey puck trails for speed indication, and on and on...
AndrewKemendo 7y ago
This wouldn't fall into the category of AR because the primary defining technologies across AR use cases aren't involved. For example you don't need any kind of SLAM, Visual Odometry or otherwise for backup cameras to work seamlessly. It's not 6DOF. There is no 3D rendering. Camera localization isn't required etc... So calling this AR means you're casting too wide of a net from a complexity perspective.
- mycall 7y ago
  According to Steve Mann, the father of AR, any wearable compute is AR.
  - AndrewKemendo 7y ago
    Last I checked a backup camera isn't wearable Also, just because Steve Mann said it doesn't make it canon, and he didn't invent AR - arguably Louis Rosenberg built the first functional AR system.

misterprime 7y ago

I wouldn't have categorized this as AR, but perhaps you're right. Would this instead be called a "heads up display"? I guess not, since it's not something that's shown on the windows you're looking through.

pathartl 7y ago
I'd say it's more of a HUD. If there was a 3D render of where walls might be or bumps might be, then I'd consider that AR.
- myself248 7y ago
  But it's the literal opposite of heads-up; you lower your view and stare at the radio to see the camera. If you were looking at the mirror and it was adding to the normal reflection you're already seeing, that would be heads-up.
- mycall 7y ago
  Technically, a wrist watch is AR since it is augmenting your reality with information.
sixstringtheory 7y ago
I would agree this is AR. It's similar to the AR introduced in sports broadcasts that overlayed first-down lines or field goal long-distance records onto football fields, hockey puck trails for speed indication, and on and on...

AndrewKemendo 7y ago

This wouldn't fall into the category of AR because the primary defining technologies across AR use cases aren't involved. For example you don't need any kind of SLAM, Visual Odometry or otherwise for backup cameras to work seamlessly. It's not 6DOF. There is no 3D rendering. Camera localization isn't required etc... So calling this AR means you're casting too wide of a net from a complexity perspective.

mycall 7y ago
According to Steve Mann, the father of AR, any wearable compute is AR.
- AndrewKemendo 7y ago
  Last I checked a backup camera isn't wearable Also, just because Steve Mann said it doesn't make it canon, and he didn't invent AR - arguably Louis Rosenberg built the first functional AR system.