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There actually was a lot of Epstein news that dropped last night (presumably with the idea that the Democrat debates would drown it out): 1. This Harvard state

There actually was a lot of Epstein news that dropped last night (presumably with the idea that the Democrat debates would drown it out): 1. This Harvard statement. "Money's gone, too bad". 2. MIT President Rafael Reif admitted to signing an Epstein thank you note and attending a meeting discussing Epstein's contributions. He also threw his whole staff under the bus. 3. Reid Hoffman admitted to arranging meetings with Epstein on Joi Ito's request. He shockingly threw Ito and unshockingly MIT under the bus. [2] https://news.mit.edu/2019/letter-regarding-jeffrey-epstein-and-mit-0822 https://news.mit.edu/2019/letter-regarding-jeffrey-epstein-a... [3] https://www.axios.com/reid-hoffman-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-206d7254-e4dc-4079-9974-631fbe669b3d.html https://www.axios.com/reid-hoffman-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donat... EDIT: This submission is now [flagged]. There's no flame war going on in here to sink it so not sure why it would be removed.

ZeroGravitas 7y ago
You seem up to date, has anyone figured out where Epstien got all the money from yet?
- msghacq 7y ago
  No, it's still a mystery. Right before he died, he moved it all into a trust and named Bill Gate's advisor as his executor: https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ex-bill-gates-adviser-shocked-to-be-named-one-of-jeffrey-epsteins-executors/ https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ex-bill-gates-adviser-shocked-... Gates himself has a lot to answer for. The MIT emails show Epstein funneling $2M from Gates to Media Lab. He also flew on Epstein's jet to Florida and hasn't answered why.
  - derg 7y ago
    One day I will not be surprised at how deep the rot goes, but today is not that day.
  - mistermann 7y ago
    With the amount of powerful people involved in this story, I don't think we're ever going to find out any details what really happened about the actual trafficking crimes themselves, at best we'll probably just be fed a healthy diet of salacious stories like this until some other event is big enough to distract everyone. But I sense this whole thing is yielding fruit in other ways. Reddit threads on the front page (and allowed to stay on the front page; this thread on HN has now been flagged I see) in normal subreddits are absolutely full of overwhelming conspiratorial comments, the nature of which the hivemind would previously have downvoted into oblivion, because as we all know conspiracies like this are "always" crazy lies, due to the fact that is it "literally impossible" for that many people to keep their mouths shut.
  - deleted 7y ago
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- echelon 7y ago
  I've seen posts claiming that he was an intelligence asset for either the CIA or Mossad. I didn't see any proof, so take it with a grain of salt.
  - msghacq 7y ago
    This is the best series of articles I've seen exploring it: https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epste... CIA, Mossad and the mafia are all covered. Whitney Webb did a really amazing job researching all of this.
  - foxhill 7y ago
    if it can be asserted without evidence, it can be dismissed without discussion.
    - par 7y ago
      That's preposterous. A lot of times you need an assertion in order to gather evidence. To make an assertion and then immediately dismiss it because there is no evidence would be a criminals dream come true.
      - foxhill 7y ago
        > A lot of times you need an assertion in order to gather evidence it's not an assertion then, it's a hypothesis. in any case, i think you may have misunderstood what i was tring to say: imagine if i'd said: "i've seen evidence that hillary clinton reports to the chinese/korean government. no proof, but still". it says nothing, doesn't mention the evidence i've seen, and yet seems to imply something "wrong". i'm calling it out, because it it encourages belief without evidence. it's insidious.
        echelon 7y ago
        I'm not calling for or encouraging belief. I'm skeptical of the claims myself. I want to see if the allegations are true and I support further investigation to bring all the details to light, because they are quite alarming. I don't support any narrative other than the truth. I posted out of curiosity, because I wanted to see if others could contribute more to the discussion. Meanwhile you have people that are flagging stories like this for an unknown reason, which is frustrating.
- dev_dull 7y ago
  Forget the money. What’s up with the freaky temple on his island?
- bobcostas55 7y ago
  Here's a good article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-so... >Oddly, Epstein also claimed to do all the investing by himself while his 150 employees all worked in the back office — which Kass says reminds him of Madoff’s cover story. Though it now appears that Epstein had many fewer employees than he claimed What was almost certainly happening was that his hedge fund was a front for blackmailing people (after they had sex with his underage sex slaves). It's also interesting to note that his client list has still somehow not leaked. Everyone on there is probably a (wealthy/powerful) pedo.

ZeroGravitas 7y ago

You seem up to date, has anyone figured out where Epstien got all the money from yet?

msghacq 7y ago
No, it's still a mystery. Right before he died, he moved it all into a trust and named Bill Gate's advisor as his executor: https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ex-bill-gates-adviser-shocked-to-be-named-one-of-jeffrey-epsteins-executors/ https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ex-bill-gates-adviser-shocked-... Gates himself has a lot to answer for. The MIT emails show Epstein funneling $2M from Gates to Media Lab. He also flew on Epstein's jet to Florida and hasn't answered why.
- derg 7y ago
  One day I will not be surprised at how deep the rot goes, but today is not that day.
- mistermann 7y ago
  With the amount of powerful people involved in this story, I don't think we're ever going to find out any details what really happened about the actual trafficking crimes themselves, at best we'll probably just be fed a healthy diet of salacious stories like this until some other event is big enough to distract everyone. But I sense this whole thing is yielding fruit in other ways. Reddit threads on the front page (and allowed to stay on the front page; this thread on HN has now been flagged I see) in normal subreddits are absolutely full of overwhelming conspiratorial comments, the nature of which the hivemind would previously have downvoted into oblivion, because as we all know conspiracies like this are "always" crazy lies, due to the fact that is it "literally impossible" for that many people to keep their mouths shut.
- deleted 7y ago
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echelon 7y ago
I've seen posts claiming that he was an intelligence asset for either the CIA or Mossad. I didn't see any proof, so take it with a grain of salt.
- msghacq 7y ago
  This is the best series of articles I've seen exploring it: https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epste... CIA, Mossad and the mafia are all covered. Whitney Webb did a really amazing job researching all of this.
- foxhill 7y ago
  if it can be asserted without evidence, it can be dismissed without discussion.
  - par 7y ago
    That's preposterous. A lot of times you need an assertion in order to gather evidence. To make an assertion and then immediately dismiss it because there is no evidence would be a criminals dream come true.
    - foxhill 7y ago
      > A lot of times you need an assertion in order to gather evidence it's not an assertion then, it's a hypothesis. in any case, i think you may have misunderstood what i was tring to say: imagine if i'd said: "i've seen evidence that hillary clinton reports to the chinese/korean government. no proof, but still". it says nothing, doesn't mention the evidence i've seen, and yet seems to imply something "wrong". i'm calling it out, because it it encourages belief without evidence. it's insidious.
      - echelon 7y ago
        I'm not calling for or encouraging belief. I'm skeptical of the claims myself. I want to see if the allegations are true and I support further investigation to bring all the details to light, because they are quite alarming. I don't support any narrative other than the truth. I posted out of curiosity, because I wanted to see if others could contribute more to the discussion. Meanwhile you have people that are flagging stories like this for an unknown reason, which is frustrating.
dev_dull 7y ago
Forget the money. What’s up with the freaky temple on his island?
bobcostas55 7y ago
Here's a good article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-so... >Oddly, Epstein also claimed to do all the investing by himself while his 150 employees all worked in the back office — which Kass says reminds him of Madoff’s cover story. Though it now appears that Epstein had many fewer employees than he claimed What was almost certainly happening was that his hedge fund was a front for blackmailing people (after they had sex with his underage sex slaves). It's also interesting to note that his client list has still somehow not leaked. Everyone on there is probably a (wealthy/powerful) pedo.