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I don’t care either way. I just hate that everything boils down to elaborate story telling. She had to travel by boat to the UN. All of this is highly theatrica

I don’t care either way. I just hate that everything boils down to elaborate story telling. She had to travel by boat to the UN. All of this is highly theatrical. The facts have been known for a long time, just talking about it won’t change anything. Whatever she has to say is not new, interesting or particularly intelligent. It can’t be. She has to rely on experts and then packages their statements in digestible, made for TV, Twitter and Instagram form.

SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
That's true, but doesn't the saying "Be excellent to each other!" have more impact when Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure is wrapped around it?
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andrepd 7y ago
I honestly don't understand the point of this reasoning, and I'm forced to conclude (because it transpires in every word you say) that you are somehow massively jealous of the attention that is being given to her. So what? I don't get it, is she supposed to produce original research else she can't speak at all?? Well no shit she is not saying anything not already published in peer-reviewed papers. She is selling it to an audience that did not care but may begin to care because of all the publicity, and crucially, to an audience that needs to be on this side for any meaningful change to get done. Not new? Not particularly intelligent? But what, is she speaking at a climatology symposium? No, she is speaking to a general audience, she is speaking to be heard in the news and by word-of-mouth. Really, what do you actually want of her?
- orbifold 7y ago
  I wouldn't say I'm jealous, just highly annoyed to whom the public is paying attention to. It's the same environmental activism theatrics that Greenpeace and WWF have been doing for all of their existence. As a counterpoint take John Baez for example: He decided started beginning in 2010 to try to organise engineers, physicists and mathematicians around the global ecological crisis https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/this-weeks-finds-week-301/ https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/this-weeks-f.... Was he interviewed or reported on by CNN? Of course not. How often has David MacKay (https://withouthotair.com https://withouthotair.com) been given the chance to speak to the public?
NeedMoreTea 7y ago
> travel by boat to the UN. All of this is highly theatrical The hate would have been full of claims of hypocrisy had she hopped on a Boeing or a trans-Atlantic liner (if there are still liner services). She says she probably won't be able to go, the someone offers a place on a racing yacht. If she'd stayed at home the message would no doubt be trying to spin up her not feeling the UN important enough... Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.
playpause 7y ago
Storytelling and theatrics are central to human progress and always have been. If the level of international collaboration needed to solve the climate crisis can be achieved, then it will be achieved in part by changing hearts and minds on an unprecedented scale, including through stories of iconic events and individuals, consumed by billions of people through social media. There is no point being cynical about this.

SketchySeaBeast 7y ago

That's true, but doesn't the saying "Be excellent to each other!" have more impact when Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure is wrapped around it?

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andrepd 7y ago

I honestly don't understand the point of this reasoning, and I'm forced to conclude (because it transpires in every word you say) that you are somehow massively jealous of the attention that is being given to her. So what? I don't get it, is she supposed to produce original research else she can't speak at all?? Well no shit she is not saying anything not already published in peer-reviewed papers. She is selling it to an audience that did not care but may begin to care because of all the publicity, and crucially, to an audience that needs to be on this side for any meaningful change to get done. Not new? Not particularly intelligent? But what, is she speaking at a climatology symposium? No, she is speaking to a general audience, she is speaking to be heard in the news and by word-of-mouth. Really, what do you actually want of her?

orbifold 7y ago
I wouldn't say I'm jealous, just highly annoyed to whom the public is paying attention to. It's the same environmental activism theatrics that Greenpeace and WWF have been doing for all of their existence. As a counterpoint take John Baez for example: He decided started beginning in 2010 to try to organise engineers, physicists and mathematicians around the global ecological crisis https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/this-weeks-finds-week-301/ https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/this-weeks-f.... Was he interviewed or reported on by CNN? Of course not. How often has David MacKay (https://withouthotair.com https://withouthotair.com) been given the chance to speak to the public?

NeedMoreTea 7y ago

> travel by boat to the UN. All of this is highly theatrical The hate would have been full of claims of hypocrisy had she hopped on a Boeing or a trans-Atlantic liner (if there are still liner services). She says she probably won't be able to go, the someone offers a place on a racing yacht. If she'd stayed at home the message would no doubt be trying to spin up her not feeling the UN important enough... Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

playpause 7y ago

Storytelling and theatrics are central to human progress and always have been. If the level of international collaboration needed to solve the climate crisis can be achieved, then it will be achieved in part by changing hearts and minds on an unprecedented scale, including through stories of iconic events and individuals, consumed by billions of people through social media. There is no point being cynical about this.