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Julian Assange to stay in prison over absconding fears
- pmyteh 7y agoSo specifically his sentence for skipping bail to the embassy is now over (you normally serve only half the amount given, which is now over) and he's now just being held in the extradition case. He'd normally be given bail for that, but given what happened last time he was, his lawyer didn't even ask for it this time. So he's remanded in custody until the extradition hearing.
- whamlastxmas 7y agoIt's sad that a journalist being tortured and treated so inhumanely isn't getting better coverage by his journalist peers
- ddingus 7y agoDo they not see their own risk of seeing a similar scenario? Or, perhaps they have settled. Compromise?
- coldtea 7y agoMost modern journalists doesn't even have 1/5th the independence of 60s-70s journalists. Many don't have the real life experience and cynicism either, they content to have a subtly more nuanced version of whatever the government/mainstream says... One reason is it's more difficult to make a living if you're fired (not many press jobs anymore, whether online or print), and more easy to be branded for life as unwelcome. As for going at it on your own, e.g. as a vlogger/journalist, if you get too much on the establishment's nerves it's very easy to deplatform you, not just from e.g. youtube, but even from payment platforms for donations...
- buboard 7y agoMost of journalism today is creative interpretation of tweets. If anything assange was much more responsible than many in the most prominent, subscription-seeking media
- mieseratte 7y agoThey're torturing him?
- buboard 7y agohttps://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange-shows-psychological-torture-symptoms-says-un-expert https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange...
- amyjess 7y ago1) Assange isn't a journalist. 2) He's not being tortured. 3) It's entirely reasonable that a known and proven flight risk will be held without bail when facing criminal charges.
- somesortofsystm 7y agoYou are completely wrong: 1. He IS a journalist. 2. He IS being tortured. 3. Flight risk? Justifiable, imho.
- whamlastxmas 7y ago1) Assange is a journalist 2) He's being tortured 3) I wasn't addressing this
- ninkendo 7y agoPlease, explain how Julian Assange is a journalist.
- whamlastxmas 7y agoHe's a founding member of a very well known journalistic enterprise and has won an award for his journalism? He performs journalism and has done so for years? He calls himself a journalist and virtually every other journalism outlet does as well?
- ninkendo 7y agoDo you call wikileaks a journalistic enterprise? What journalism are they performing? Letting people upload troves of information, and just dumping them to the public without going through and vetting them, isn't journalism in my book. He's a journalist in the same sense that a data breach dumped on pastebin is a news article.
- buboard 7y agoWikileaks does vet the information and publishes in coordination with some other media. And they have a stellar record of publishing 100% true information, unlike some other major jounralistic media. The fact that some journalists are so vehement against Assange imho proves that he s a journalist. People always shoot the messenger
- monomyth 7y agoWhile I agree with your sentiment, he does fit the description: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalist https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalist 1.b: a writer who aims at a mass audience
- ninkendo 7y agook. Julian Assange: Technically a journalist.
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- fit2rule 7y agoIs Julian even himself, any more? Last I heard, he'd been heavily sedated during an interview, and folks who knew him didn't think he'd survived it. https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-tortured-psychotropic-drug/5676921 https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-tortured-psycho... Just wondering. My personal opinion: Julian Assange is a hero who deserves all the accolades available, including the Nobel Peace Prize. But, I am aware that he has his haters here on HN: What say you about his torture? Justified?
- whamlastxmas 7y agoThey probably don't believe it's actually happened
- IfOnlyYouKnew 7y agoBeing in jail isn't torture. If he has psychological issues, there should be treatment available. And the cause is far more likely years in self-imposed embassy-confinement than weeks in jail. If Assange hadn't been an egomaniac and conspiracy-theorist, he would have put the Swedish indictment far behind by now. Also: your "source" is embarrassing.
- fit2rule 7y agoBeing forcefully given psychotropic drugs during an interview, is torture. https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-tortured-psychotropic-drug/5676921 https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-tortured-psycho... > egomaniac and conspiracy-theorist Oh, okay then. I see that you've already made your mind up.
- Synaesthesia 7y agoSolitary confinement is torture.
- m-p-3 7y agothat source is from Michel Chossudovsky (born 1946) is a Canadian economist, author and conspiracy theorist. Not looking great for credibility. The Centre for Research on Globalization promotes a variety of conspiracy theories and falsehoods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky
- amyjess 7y agoThis is entirely reasonable given that when he was first charged with rape, he fled into an embassy and hid there for years. Flight risks get denied bail, and Assange is a proven flight risk.
- buboard 7y agohe was NEVER charged with rape
- mieseratte 7y agoSo what did Sweden want him for exactly? Regardless of charge, he was wanted and has proven himself a flight-risk.
- buboard 7y agoquestioning about some "rape" allegations which in any other country would be considered minor https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/4/12/18306901/julian-assange-arrest-wikileaks-rape-sweden-embassy https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/4/12/18306901/julian-ass... > Assange tried to have unprotected sex with her, she said, but she asked him to use a condom. He agreed, but, she said, he had “done something” to the condom so that it ripped before he ejaculated. > Assange told police that he had sex with Ardin but did not tear the condom, according to the Guardian. > In the days that followed, Ardin told a friend that she was still allowing Assange to stay with her, but they were not having sex because he had “exceeded the limits of what she felt she could accept,” the friend told police. > Miss W met Assange at a seminar organized by Ardin, she told police. They later met up and went to her apartment, where they started to have sex. But Assange did not want to use a condom, Miss W said, so they stopped and eventually fell asleep. Later that night, she said, they woke up and had consensual sex, during which he “unwillingly” used a condom. But in the morning, Miss W said, she woke up to find Assange penetrating her without a condom. > Assange has denied any wrongdoing with respect to Miss W. A lawyer for Assange has not yet responded to Vox’s request for comment.
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- buboard 7y agoMaybe he s safer in UK jail? I dont know, maybe smaller risk of finding yourself accidentally hanged
- Synaesthesia 7y agoThe media blackout on Julian Assange's imprisonment https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/the-media-blackout-on-julian-assanges-imprisonment,13094 https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/t...
- buboard 7y agoI have to say the amount of hate against assange in here is staggeringly more than i expected.
- doe88 7y agoI have no particular sympathy for Julian Assange but to me he clearly is a political prisoner. Obviously all of this is perfectly nested under the cover of sound laws and sound verdicts in typical fashion of our western democracies to accomodate their caricatural moral superiorities.