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If the people of Hong Kong don't want to be extradicted to China is that racist? > a convenient but not completely honest way to deflect claims of racism And

If the people of Hong Kong don't want to be extradicted to China is that racist? > a convenient but not completely honest way to deflect claims of racism And sometimes claims of racism can be a convenient but not quite honest way to deflect criticism of policy.

mytailorisrich 7y ago
> If the people of Hong Kong don't want to be extradicted to China is that racist? Could we avoid straw man arguments? There is an element of racism on issues related to China. There is no point denying it. There is certainly less of it (or at least it is much less obvious) than during the anti-China campaign in the West/US during the 50s and 60s but it is still there. As I wrote, some people just complain too much... It's quite obvious in this thread.
- Angostura 7y ago
  > Could we avoid straw man arguments? We can - but that wasn't a straw-man argument. > There is an element of racism on issues regarding China. I agree. There is also an element of "that's racist" being used to deflect criticism.
- Grangar 7y ago
  I'm fairly sure the racism argument was the first strawman in this thread. Chinese software has some real trust issues, given the political climate in that country. Open source does not automatically mean it's safe.
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    You've ignored what I wrote in my comments and just replied beside the point by repeating the usual FUD instead. A comment with similar contents as yours but "pro-China" would immediately be labelled as coming from a 'bot' or someone paid by the Chinese government. I find this fascinating. The current climate regarding China is fantastic book material for Noam Chomsky.
- rmilejczz 7y ago
  Could we avoid misusing the term straw man argument? That seemed like a good faith hypothetical question that could help further illuminate your own position, not some false posturing of your ideas.

mytailorisrich 7y ago

> If the people of Hong Kong don't want to be extradicted to China is that racist? Could we avoid straw man arguments? There is an element of racism on issues related to China. There is no point denying it. There is certainly less of it (or at least it is much less obvious) than during the anti-China campaign in the West/US during the 50s and 60s but it is still there. As I wrote, some people just complain too much... It's quite obvious in this thread.

Angostura 7y ago
> Could we avoid straw man arguments? We can - but that wasn't a straw-man argument. > There is an element of racism on issues regarding China. I agree. There is also an element of "that's racist" being used to deflect criticism.
Grangar 7y ago
I'm fairly sure the racism argument was the first strawman in this thread. Chinese software has some real trust issues, given the political climate in that country. Open source does not automatically mean it's safe.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago
  You've ignored what I wrote in my comments and just replied beside the point by repeating the usual FUD instead. A comment with similar contents as yours but "pro-China" would immediately be labelled as coming from a 'bot' or someone paid by the Chinese government. I find this fascinating. The current climate regarding China is fantastic book material for Noam Chomsky.
rmilejczz 7y ago
Could we avoid misusing the term straw man argument? That seemed like a good faith hypothetical question that could help further illuminate your own position, not some false posturing of your ideas.