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I think it has to do with that China has a terrible human right's reputation (yet we all use Chinese products, so there's that), but mainly that Huawei is prett

by sgt 7y ago

I think it has to do with that China has a terrible human right's reputation (yet we all use Chinese products, so there's that), but mainly that Huawei is pretty much obliged by law to build backdoors and share any kind of information with the Chinese government if they are asked to do so.

Smithalicious 7y ago
Deepin isn't developed by Huawei, but I guess your point stands. Still, Deepin is a distribution that has been around for 15 years now, and it's completely open source. I don't think there's a legitimate reason to believe that Deepin is compromised in some way, which is the statement that was being made. At the very least there's no argument for that being made other than a vague reference to "its Chinese origins".
- xurias 7y ago
  Unless somebody is doing in-depth security audits of every change, I don't see how Deepin can be trusted. The whole trusting trust thing.
aibrahem 7y ago
So does the US, I've yet to hear a valid argument on why the US is a better citizen on the global stage than China. Domistically a very weak argument could be made that the US doesn't violate the rights of their own citizens as bad as China, but between FISA courts, the NSA and programs like PRISM (which is more than a decade old now), this argument barely makes sense.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  Well, for one, whoever's running the US gets changed after two terms, sometimes it's a pity, sometimes it couldn't happen fast enough. But in my opinion, it's definitely better than having the same person running things for who-knows how long, regardless of the integrity of that person.
  - KaoruAoiShiho 7y ago
    A couple dozen people change at the top but literally everyone else stays on, including all the criminals in military and intelligence. It's an absolute joke.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  Does it suck that the US persecutes a few thousand people via abuse of sigint? Yes. Does it suck more that Chinese Communist Part terrorizes millions? Yes. Does the US persecute Black people worse than CCP persecutes anyone, for non-"privacy" reasons? Maybe.
- sgt 7y ago
  There's still democratic oversight in the US to a much larger degree, and also many US companies are not playing ball in terms of encryption backdoors etc. Apple is one example.

by sgt 7y ago

Smithalicious 7y ago

Deepin isn't developed by Huawei, but I guess your point stands. Still, Deepin is a distribution that has been around for 15 years now, and it's completely open source. I don't think there's a legitimate reason to believe that Deepin is compromised in some way, which is the statement that was being made. At the very least there's no argument for that being made other than a vague reference to "its Chinese origins".

xurias 7y ago
Unless somebody is doing in-depth security audits of every change, I don't see how Deepin can be trusted. The whole trusting trust thing.

aibrahem 7y ago

So does the US, I've yet to hear a valid argument on why the US is a better citizen on the global stage than China. Domistically a very weak argument could be made that the US doesn't violate the rights of their own citizens as bad as China, but between FISA courts, the NSA and programs like PRISM (which is more than a decade old now), this argument barely makes sense.

klingonopera 7y ago
Well, for one, whoever's running the US gets changed after two terms, sometimes it's a pity, sometimes it couldn't happen fast enough. But in my opinion, it's definitely better than having the same person running things for who-knows how long, regardless of the integrity of that person.
- KaoruAoiShiho 7y ago
  A couple dozen people change at the top but literally everyone else stays on, including all the criminals in military and intelligence. It's an absolute joke.
lonelappde 7y ago
Does it suck that the US persecutes a few thousand people via abuse of sigint? Yes. Does it suck more that Chinese Communist Part terrorizes millions? Yes. Does the US persecute Black people worse than CCP persecutes anyone, for non-"privacy" reasons? Maybe.
sgt 7y ago
There's still democratic oversight in the US to a much larger degree, and also many US companies are not playing ball in terms of encryption backdoors etc. Apple is one example.