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Don’t ignore aesthetics and installation costs of plug powered gym equipment vs. muscle powered equipment. Customer generated electricity allows to place equipm

by lnsru 7y ago

Don’t ignore aesthetics and installation costs of plug powered gym equipment vs. muscle powered equipment. Customer generated electricity allows to place equipment everywhere in the gym. Gym does not need power outlets for every piece of equipment and to have exact floor plan in the very beginning. Gym can rearrange equipment periodically delivering better experience for clients. You need 20 Watts to power Raspberry Pi running under load. Basic electronics with couple LEDs need only 3-5 Watts. Even less if designed properly, so this way generated energy can very well power gym equipment. I think, I can generate 100 Watts.

masklinn 7y ago
> I think, I can generate 100 Watts. > Over an 8-hour work shift, an average, healthy, well-fed and motivated manual laborer may sustain an output of around 75 watts of work. That's before conversion & transmission losses (especially as the converter will need to handle wildly varying inputs) And even if we ignore these, according to 10.1109/MSPEC.2011.5910449: > Let’s assume that the average piece of exercise equipment is in use 5 hours a day, 365 days a year. If each patron generates 100 watts while using it, that machine creates some 183 kilowatt-hours of electricity a year. Commercial power costs about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour on average in the United States, so the electricity produced in a year from one machine is worth about US $18 dollars.
- jerf 7y ago
  Also, don't forget the gear to capture the electricity isn't free, is more stuff that can break and incur maintenance fees, must contain purified metals and other non-zero carbon emissions, and so on. Trying to break even on all of this off of human labor is a silly game to play when there are so many other better opportunities. And that $18/yr is already inflated by enough factors that $1/yr is probably a much better estimate. Same for these solar panels on a car, too. Solar panels aren't the nicest things to manufacture right now. Putting them on a platform this poor is silly when you could put them somewhere more effective. If they were dirt cheap and harmless to create, opportunity costs might be less of an issue, but even today, they aren't dirt cheap and the aren't harmless to manufacture. They should be used effectively, not for show or feelings.
9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
A bit off-topic, but I've never exceeded 6w of power with raspberry and I have monitored it out of curiosity a lot.

by lnsru 7y ago

masklinn 7y ago

> I think, I can generate 100 Watts. > Over an 8-hour work shift, an average, healthy, well-fed and motivated manual laborer may sustain an output of around 75 watts of work. That's before conversion & transmission losses (especially as the converter will need to handle wildly varying inputs) And even if we ignore these, according to 10.1109/MSPEC.2011.5910449: > Let’s assume that the average piece of exercise equipment is in use 5 hours a day, 365 days a year. If each patron generates 100 watts while using it, that machine creates some 183 kilowatt-hours of electricity a year. Commercial power costs about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour on average in the United States, so the electricity produced in a year from one machine is worth about US $18 dollars.

jerf 7y ago
Also, don't forget the gear to capture the electricity isn't free, is more stuff that can break and incur maintenance fees, must contain purified metals and other non-zero carbon emissions, and so on. Trying to break even on all of this off of human labor is a silly game to play when there are so many other better opportunities. And that $18/yr is already inflated by enough factors that $1/yr is probably a much better estimate. Same for these solar panels on a car, too. Solar panels aren't the nicest things to manufacture right now. Putting them on a platform this poor is silly when you could put them somewhere more effective. If they were dirt cheap and harmless to create, opportunity costs might be less of an issue, but even today, they aren't dirt cheap and the aren't harmless to manufacture. They should be used effectively, not for show or feelings.

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago

A bit off-topic, but I've never exceeded 6w of power with raspberry and I have monitored it out of curiosity a lot.