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President Tyler, born in 1790, still has two living grandsons (2018) [video]
- lqet 7y agoIf you think of it, there should be quite a few people alive today who had a grandfather that could've been a schoolmate of Napoleon Bonaparte (who was born in 1769). If you grandfather fathered a child at 80 (which is entirely impossible), and your father got you when he was 80 too, and if you are 90 in 2019, then your grandfather was born in 1769.
- maxheadroom 7y agoMost complicated game of Six of Degrees of Kevin Bacon[0] that I've heard of. :) [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon
- parenthesis 7y agoWhat I find funny about Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon is that he is married to Kyra Sedgwick, who is the half-sister of jazz guitarist Mike Stern. Mike Stern played with Miles Davis and Miles Davis is basically the Paul Erdos or Kevin Bacon of jazz.
- iainmerrick 7y agoI've heard that Kevin Bacon isn't actually the Kevin Bacon of the Kevin Bacon game; some researchers a few years back crunched the numbers and determined that the most-connected actor was actually Rod Steiger (having starred in a wide range of highbrow and lowbrow movies over a very long career). Maybe somebody else has since overtaken Steiger, though. Maybe even Kevin Bacon himself! Edit to add: ha, I see there's a calculation at The Oracle of Bacon: http://oracleofbacon.org/center_list.php http://oracleofbacon.org/center_list.php Not sure how frequently this is updated, but the top few names definitely sound plausible.
- excalibur 7y agoBacon is actually #565 on that list. Probably not a serious contender :)
- chillydawg 7y agoInteresting to see the first woman on that list is at #21 (Geraldine Chaplin).
- jacquesm 7y ago> https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-05-pig-virus-potential-threat-humans.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-05-pig-virus-potential-t... I submit Danny Trejo as a candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Trejo_filmography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Trejo_filmography
- martinclayton 7y agoCould have been Steiger at some point - only Trevor Howard (just) above him in the list predeceased him.
- benj111 7y agoIf you find it funny that Kevin Bacon is within 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon of someone else, you're kind of misunderstanding the idea of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. Challenge: Find the link between Kevin Bacon and President Tyler
- bluedevil2k 7y agoOn a podcast I listened to recently, Kevin Bacon said he didn't really like the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon because he felt it was fun of him at his expense.
- jacquesm 7y ago> which is entirely impossible isn't?
- jumbopapa 7y agoNo, an 80 year old man is capable of fathering a child.
- stevenjgarner 7y agoRamjit Raghav claims to have fathered his second child at age 96 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjit_Raghav https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjit_Raghav
- jacquesm 7y agoThat was my point.
- ses1984 7y ago...really?
- dragonwriter 7y agoYes, which is why it should be “isn't entirely impossible” not “is entirely impossible”.
- lqet 7y agoSorry, that was a typo - clearly I meant "possible" here!
- excalibur 7y ago> quite a few people > grandfather fathered a child at 80... , and your father got you when he was 80 too, and if you are 90 I don't think these things are as common as you think they are.
- wahern 7y agoNo, but there are like 7 billion people, and until very recently polygyny was widespread around the globe. A male usually needs to be wealthy to have multiple wives, but those are precisely the sorts of males that are likely to have above average lifespans. And, of course, serial monogamy has similar causes and effects. My spouse had two maternal grandmothers. When the elder one could no longer have children (or perhaps didn't wish to have any more), not yet having borne a son, she arranged for a second wife. My spouse's grandfather was in his 70s when his last child, a son, was a born. And this man was simply a middle-class shopkeeper.[1] People don't talk much about polygyny because it's awkward in modern culture, even in places like Africa and Asia where it's often only one generation removed, if that. [1] AFAIU, polygyny is still legal in that country, Malaysia, though now permitted of Muslims only. Whereas previously polygyny was practiced by Muslims, Chinese, possibly Indians (not sure), and presumably the indigenous population as well.
- coldcode 7y agoMy great great grandfather was born a little before 1800. But that's as close as I can get.
- chadlavi 7y agoThis sort of thing blows my mind. My great grandfather was born in the 1910s.
- trey-jones 7y agoI'm 35, and my grandmother was born in 1912. She had my mom, the youngest of 5, when she was 45. She herself (my grandmother) was the youngest of 13 surviving children. Her father (my great grandfather) was born in 1861, and her mother was born in 1868. He died in 1937 (20 years before my mother was born), and she in 1953, the same year Queen Elizabeth II was crowned queen of England, and 30 years before I was born. My wife's great grandmother died when she was a junior in high school. I agree, the results of having children later in life can be quite amazing, and I think there is a cultural impact as well. I would call myself and my family a little old fashioned and definitely thrifty due to having a grandmother who lived through the great depression. Just thought I'd try and blow your mind a little more.
- fatcatt316 7y agoI'm just about there with you -- I'm 36 and my grandfather was born in 1913. My great-grandfather was a bootmaker for Otto von Bismarck. Meanwhile, my wife's grandmother was born in the 1940s, and her great-grandmother was alive until just a few years back.
- wahern 7y agoMy step-brother was a grandfather at 35, and in all likelihood he'll be a great-grandfather by 60. It's something of an historical aberration that most people today only have children within a very small window of time. Interestingly, a clear, geographically distinct trend developed in Western Europe several hundred years ago, long before the industrial revolution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line
- MaximumYComb 7y ago"This video is not available in your country" - I live in Australia and I have no idea why this is occurring for a video like this.
- romaaeterna 7y agoTyler's son was born in 1853, and his son in 1928. Tyler had the son in his sixties, and his son had his in his seventies. Male fertility lasts a bit longer than female.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y agoIt does, but for full effect it's important to have a family trait of being dirty old men to go along with it.
- romaaeterna 7y agoThat trait is common, possibly ubiquitous. I think that wealth may be the more important discriminator here. Without it, a man might find it difficult to attract a woman half his age late in life.
- simonh 7y agoMaybe statistically, but there was a case here in the uk a few years ago. An old fellow in his 70s at a nursing home got one of the care assistants, aged under 20 IIRC, pregnant in a consensual relationship.
- larrywright 7y agoI’m a little grossed out, but also impressed.
- eesmith 7y ago"Wealth" comes in many forms. Widows of civil war veterans received benefits. Some young women married old civil war veterans as a result. Maudie Hopkins died in 2008, perhaps the last living widow of a Civil War veteran - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maudie_Hopkins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maudie_Hopkins > "It was not especially uncommon for young women in Arkansas to marry Confederate pensioners; in 1937 the state passed a law stating that women who married Civil War veterans would not be eligible for a widow's pension. The law was later changed in 1939 to state that widows born after 1870 were not eligible for pensions." Or Alberta Martin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Martin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Martin > On December 10, 1927, the then-21-year-old Stewart married the 81-year-old Martin, primarily to get help raising her son and because his $50 per month Confederate pension check guaranteed her a degree of financial security.
- bregma 7y agoI met a guy today I knew years ago, when he was 23, And he was married to a widow who was as pretty as could be. Now this widow had a grown-up daughter who had beautiful hair of red, And this guy's father fell in love with her and soon the two were wed. Now this made the guy's dad his son-in-law and changed his very life For his daughter was his mother because she was his father's wife. Now to complicate the matter even though it brought him joy, He soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy. Now his little baby then became a brother-in-law to his dad, And so became his uncle and though that made him very sad, For if the baby was his uncle then that also made him brother, Of the widow's grown-up daughter who was of course his step-mother. Now his father's wife had a son who kept them on the run, So he became his grandchild for he was his daughter's son. His wife is now his mother's mother and of course that makes him blue Because although she's his wife she's his grandmother too!
- jermaustin1 7y agoThis is a very recursive family tree [1]. I'm pretty sure WikiTree would not enjoy this one. 1: https://gist.github.com/jeremyaboyd/a7be325127a507a4b241f980fb5988d4 https://gist.github.com/jeremyaboyd/a7be325127a507a4b241f980... Legend: D=dad, S=friend, W=widow, d=duaghter of W, s=son of S+W, g=son of d+D
- mkbkn 7y agoI humbly request you to please stop, my brain is making spirals.
- philote 7y agoIt sounds funny I know but it really is so
- glitchc 7y agoLove it! Thank you for posting.
- mywacaday 7y agoI drew it out and it still hurts
- habosa 7y agoThis is one of my favorite pieces of historical trivia. To put it into perspective: the grandsons alive today can say "My grandfather's president was George Washington".
- Balanceinfinity 7y agoLast civil war soldier died in 1956 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Woolson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Woolson) Lots of people walking around who could have known a Civil war veteran firsthand.