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Why would ICE need an “Urban Warfare” facility? Note that this is at the famous counter-insurgency training centre, the US army “School of Americas”, notorious
by Synaesthesia 7y ago
Why would ICE need an “Urban Warfare” facility? Note that this is at the famous counter-insurgency training centre, the US army “School of Americas”, notorious for training central and South American death squads.
- _iyig 7y agoIt’s just a fancy SWAT team training facility. Probably has “Warfare” in the name because it’s getting built on Ft. Benning, an Army base. Wouldn’t be surprised if the facility gets shared with Army units who also do indoor and urban combat training.
- tomschlick 7y agoThis seems like the most plausible explanation. Federal agencies / military share these types of facilities everywhere. It's sad you're being downvoted for it.
- codeddesign 7y agoWhy is this downvoted? He has a point to a plausible reason for the name. It’s built at an army base that is also likely used for multiple different types of units. Would it make everyone sleep better at night naming it “Fluffy Bear Facility”? Would everyone prefer that we don’t have the tactical ability when and if needed? I am personally highly against war, but at the same time I feel much more comfortable knowing that we do have the ability and advantage when needed. I think the argument should be “how is this facility used and under what circumstances do these trained units utilize their skills?”
- eesmith 7y agoBecause 1) there is nothing in the document about it being a shared resource (copy at https://www.wabe.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/LSJ_Hyper_Realistic_Training_Devices_redacted__1__pdf_AZUFaO_Z.pdf https://www.wabe.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/LSJ_Hyper_Re... ), and 2) the FBI already has such facilities, like 'Hogan's Alley' at Quantico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan's_Alley_(FBI) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan's_Alley_(FBI) ). There are many other similar facilities, like in Artesia, NM https://www.fletc.gov/artesia-new-mexico https://www.fletc.gov/artesia-new-mexico Now, the document claims that this will be a "hyper-realistic" facility, and that only one company is able to provide such unique capabilities. This leads to some obvious questions: 1) if hyperrealism is so important, why aren't the other facilities, including the FBI, already asking for improvements to their existing sites? 2) why should there be new sites for these sorts of training facilities - what tactical training abilities aren't already available? and 3) if it's so important, why isn't it explicitly being developed as a shared resource? I think the bureaucratic is more reasonable than the one proposed by the grandparent post, that is, each federal organization acts as its own fiefdom and wants its own things. Plus, there's probably some graft - is it really the case that only a single company can provide such construction?
- AndrewBissell 7y agoAll those Alex Jones fans are going to be so surprised when it turns out to be ICE running the domestic prison camps instead of FEMA.
- jorblumesea 7y agoEvery govt agency has their little elite training center. Funding is use it or lose it, so once you have a budget you spend it.
- Gibbon1 7y agoBecause the ICE being groomed to be used against us.
- whamlastxmas 7y agoYes, they're clearly the force that Trump is going to use to assume his dictatorship for life. First he'll go door to door and put a bullet in the head of anyone that doesn't pledge allegiance to him. Then he's going to put anyone that doesn't have blonde hair in concentration camps and force-feed them toilet water
- yeezul 7y agoReminds me of the comedy(?) The Oath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcVhhno-Uo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcVhhno-Uo