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I realize this is a joke, but just wanted to add that Rogoway is a consistently great and thorough writer on defense subjects. I've been reading his stuff since
by mNovak 7y ago
I realize this is a joke, but just wanted to add that Rogoway is a consistently great and thorough writer on defense subjects. I've been reading his stuff since the Foxtrot Alpha days.
- nabla9 7y agoI completely different view. Rogoway's is not into critical thinking or good analysis. He is also deeply into monetizing Navy-UFO conspiracy.
- dmix 7y ago> He is also deeply into monetizing Navy-UFO conspiracy. A lot of these otherwise sensible warfare blogs are getting heavily into this. I don't understand it. But clearly it attracts a big audience and they've always been a niche blog topic so I guess they like the attention.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoAttention -> pageviews -> ad money. The fundamental value chain of most news reporting today.
- austinheap 7y agoFeels like a stretch that multiple military personnel went on record and conspired to make this up for the clicks on a blog? Far easier ways to drive traffic.
- tapland 7y agoThe pilots seeing it wasn't what drove traffic. It was suppression of terrestrial explanations and lack of critical thinking by reporters.
- sverige 7y agoCan you please point me to the terrestrial explanation for the recent spate of "snake-like" UFO sightings? In the absence of any positive evidence for its existence, I don't believe there is extra-terrestrial life. But I haven't seen any logical explanation for some of the widely observed phenomena, either. I usually assume it involves secret government projects.
- matthewdgreen 7y agoI've ready Rogoway's articles on this. He starts from real and public announcements by the U.S. military -- which is pretty newsworthy -- and then he spends a lot of time trying to come up with sensible, scientific explanations. See for example this article that compares the sightings to recent designs for radar-reflecting balloons [1]. TL;DR: the Navy made this newsworthy. Rogaway just seems to be doing reasonable investigative work from that starting point. [1] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-the-ufos-navy-pilots-are-encountering-be-airborne-radar-reflectors https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-th...
- thedawner 7y agoBest reporting on the subject out there. He was doing it before the NYTs article on hard unexplained situations. Nothing about aliens. This dude who says he is monetizing it or spreading typical ufo junk is a total troll.
- derefr 7y agoI've completely missed the boat (heh); what is "Navy-UFO conspiracy"? Because at least one interpretation of that combination of words is entirely level-headed (UFOs as Naval materiel, e.g. penaids and their friends, electro-optical EW missile-countermeasure systems), while the other, not so much.
- austinheap 7y agoNY Times: ‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings...
- dkersten 7y agoAs Neil Degrasse Tyson once said, even pilots aren't astronomers or astrophysicists and often don't know what they're seeing when they look at the sky.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoI don't follow this line of reasoning. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't astronomy the scientific study of celestial objects; and astrophysics is the branch of astronomy concerned with the physical nature of those celestial objects. Why would either of those be the right consultants for UFOs, which are decidedly not celestial objects.
- wbl 7y agoAstronomy includes knowing when you aren't doing it and instead seeing an artifact of your instruments or weather.
- jbattle 7y ago> Astronomy includes knowing when you aren't doing it and instead seeing an artifact of your instruments or weather One would hope fighter pilots have some faculty in said skills!
- Roritharr 7y agoAs a pair of eyeballs that likes to read about the Navy-UFO stuff, can you point me to something more critical of it? I just get a lot of noise and nothing really makes sense, so I just treat it as entertainint Sci-Fi.
- garmaine 7y agoMost of it makes perfect sense. But there is a certain Congress critter that has got himself convinced that UFOs are real and has made it his pet project to fund these investigations. Which, quote predictably, cherrypick facts to justify their continued funding.
- austinheap 7y agoSaid critter thinks the 'A' in 'UFO' means aliens from outer space.
- ddalex 7y agoBut there is no A in UFO...
- emiliobumachar 7y agoThat's the point. Conventional wisdom is that Unidentified Flying Objects do exist as per their literal definition, but they're not alien spaceships.
- Roritharr 7y agoWhat's the sense that you are seeing?
- Spooky23 7y agoUFO talk is PR distraction correlated with military product development. A major component of it is to discredit conversation about observations. In the 90s it was stealth aircraft, in the 80s it was Tomahawk missiles, 50s any of a dozen airborne platforms.