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The Ancient World's Longest Underground Aqueduct (2009)

57 points by ivanech 7y ago

aaron695 7y ago
Fake news of course, can't people spot this stuff? A 100-km-long subterraneous Roman aqueduct in northern Jordan? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319100997_A_100-km-long_subterraneous_Roman_aqueduct_in_northern_Jordan https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319100997_A_100-km-...
Zenst 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat date back further and are aqueducts by any other name, unless you want to nit-pick. Might be that equally as long ones existed in pre-history. Certainly when you are looking at 1000BC-3000BC as timeframe upon these. [EDIT ADD] The longest Qanat is https://en.mehrnews.com/news/108436/3-millenia-old-Zarach-qanat-to-get-World-Heritage-status https://en.mehrnews.com/news/108436/3-millenia-old-Zarach-qa... "The three thousand year old qanat is of 120 kilometers length and earlier in 2005 was enlisted in Iran’s Cultural Heritage List." Which would pre-date year 90 A.D. by a fair bit. I'd say that a Qanut is an Aqueduct by any other name.
- black6 7y ago
  When I was in Afghanistan I was fascinated by the long lines of circular dirt mounts that dotted the landscape[0]. I knew of qanats from reading the Dune series by Frank Herbert, but had never seen an example. It wasn't until a few years after I was in Afghanistan that I realized what the long lines of what I thought were ancient battlements were--the access shafts for the qanats that provided water to the people in that high desert. Sadly I hear that the art of constructing and maintaining the qanats is being lost, and the qanats have been destroyed (or damaged beyond repair) in some cases by the expansion of the bases of occupying forces. 0: https://arcg.is/0m8ujr https://arcg.is/0m8ujr
- cheez 7y ago
  Perhaps the article is referring to the ancient world of a certain pigmentation?
  - 13of40 7y ago
    Just to be clear, and maybe I'm reading your question wrong, but are you saying you consider ancient Romans to be "white" but ancient Persians to be something other than "white"?
    - asa_ho 7y ago
      Do you not?
      - 13of40 7y ago
        Well, I don't have any photographs of their ancient ancestors, but here's a picture of the Iranian President meeting with the Italian President: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-35397885 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-euro... I don't know about you, but I don't see a striking difference in their skin tone. I'm guessing that the grandfather poster was really trying to say something about culture rather than pigment.
        asa_ho 7y ago
        Are you American? That's not how whiteness works in my experience
        13of40 7y ago
        If we go down this path too far, you're going to get a shock when you read the wiki page on "Aryan" for the first time.
        cheez 7y ago
        You would be correct
- mymythisisthis 7y ago
  I think that we are fascinated with Rome because it resembles our own modern cities. The aqueduct provided water to peoples' private homes, to businesses, to bath houses that had steam rooms and heated pools, to public fountains.
mattlondon 7y ago
Fascinating. Lots of pictures of it on this site: http://www.romanaqueducts.info/aquasite/gadara/index.html http://www.romanaqueducts.info/aquasite/gadara/index.html And also http://qanat-firaun.de/en http://qanat-firaun.de/en

57 points by ivanech 7y ago

Fake news of course, can't people spot this stuff? A 100-km-long subterraneous Roman aqueduct in northern Jordan? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319100997_A_100-km-long_subterraneous_Roman_aqueduct_in_northern_Jordan https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319100997_A_100-km-...

Zenst 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat date back further and are aqueducts by any other name, unless you want to nit-pick. Might be that equally as long ones existed in pre-history. Certainly when you are looking at 1000BC-3000BC as timeframe upon these. [EDIT ADD] The longest Qanat is https://en.mehrnews.com/news/108436/3-millenia-old-Zarach-qanat-to-get-World-Heritage-status https://en.mehrnews.com/news/108436/3-millenia-old-Zarach-qa... "The three thousand year old qanat is of 120 kilometers length and earlier in 2005 was enlisted in Iran’s Cultural Heritage List." Which would pre-date year 90 A.D. by a fair bit. I'd say that a Qanut is an Aqueduct by any other name.

black6 7y ago
When I was in Afghanistan I was fascinated by the long lines of circular dirt mounts that dotted the landscape[0]. I knew of qanats from reading the Dune series by Frank Herbert, but had never seen an example. It wasn't until a few years after I was in Afghanistan that I realized what the long lines of what I thought were ancient battlements were--the access shafts for the qanats that provided water to the people in that high desert. Sadly I hear that the art of constructing and maintaining the qanats is being lost, and the qanats have been destroyed (or damaged beyond repair) in some cases by the expansion of the bases of occupying forces. 0: https://arcg.is/0m8ujr https://arcg.is/0m8ujr
cheez 7y ago
Perhaps the article is referring to the ancient world of a certain pigmentation?
- 13of40 7y ago
  Just to be clear, and maybe I'm reading your question wrong, but are you saying you consider ancient Romans to be "white" but ancient Persians to be something other than "white"?
  - asa_ho 7y ago
    Do you not?
    - 13of40 7y ago
      Well, I don't have any photographs of their ancient ancestors, but here's a picture of the Iranian President meeting with the Italian President: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-35397885 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-euro... I don't know about you, but I don't see a striking difference in their skin tone. I'm guessing that the grandfather poster was really trying to say something about culture rather than pigment.
      - asa_ho 7y ago
        Are you American? That's not how whiteness works in my experience
        13of40 7y ago
        If we go down this path too far, you're going to get a shock when you read the wiki page on "Aryan" for the first time.
      - cheez 7y ago
        You would be correct
mymythisisthis 7y ago
I think that we are fascinated with Rome because it resembles our own modern cities. The aqueduct provided water to peoples' private homes, to businesses, to bath houses that had steam rooms and heated pools, to public fountains.

mattlondon 7y ago

Fascinating. Lots of pictures of it on this site: http://www.romanaqueducts.info/aquasite/gadara/index.html http://www.romanaqueducts.info/aquasite/gadara/index.html And also http://qanat-firaun.de/en http://qanat-firaun.de/en