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I like it. What would also be cool is another Go compiler and linker, developed by a different team not at Google. It would be good for the ecosystem and perfor

I like it. What would also be cool is another Go compiler and linker, developed by a different team not at Google. It would be good for the ecosystem and performance if there was more than one compiler and runtime. I think there would be a market for a proprietary compiler and maybe an IDE to go with it — if the performance was better than the open source one. I think this is achievable because as good as Go's performance is now, there's still a lot of headroom. Google isn't exploiting modern CPUs very well, and the linker is not doing extensive LTO. The biggest constraint is the blazing fast compile times. A compiler and toolchain that was able to take some time for optimization might deliver markedly better runtime performance.

ksherlock 7y ago
gccgo perhaps?
- sdrothrock 7y ago
  I don't think that would be appropriate since Golang isn't (to my knowledge) under the GNU license. Maybe gocc?
  - jerf 7y ago
    I think you may misunderstand the nature of the post: https://golang.org/doc/install/gccgo https://golang.org/doc/install/gccgo It's a thing that exists, not a proposal.
    - sdrothrock 7y ago
      I did, in fact! Thanks. :) I thought it was just spitballing an alternative name.
  - slrz 7y ago
    Software licenses don't really matter if you implement the Go language spec with your own code. It's only when you want to share code with other implementations that software licensing enters the picture. Gccgo manages to share most of the standard library with the golang.org implementation, so they appear to have the licensing figured out.
    - sdrothrock 7y ago
      I brought up the licensing originally since I thought they were spitballing a name and the "g" in "gcc" originally stands for "GNU." So I was saying (mostly tongue-in-cheek) that it probably wouldn't be appropriate. Sorry for the confusion, and I appreciate the clarification here too. :)
chewxy 7y ago
GCCGo,llgo and tinygo are different Go compilers built and maintained by different peoples
geodel 7y ago
> I think there would be a market for a proprietary compiler and maybe an IDE to go with it There may be a market but not large enough to pay few top notch compiler/low level system software hacker. I only know of a commercial Go IDE and constant refrain there is how will a poor third world developer afford it. Though I feel real issue is developers are raised on diet of free software feels entitled to it. Paying for good software seems alien to them.
ckok 7y ago
Curious enough; we're working on just that, a commercial compiler and ide for Go. A go compiler that can compile for .NET, native Windows, native Linux and native OSX. Haven't done much performance analysis yet, the IDE and and compiler are a first priority now, and are almost done.

ksherlock 7y ago

gccgo perhaps?

sdrothrock 7y ago
I don't think that would be appropriate since Golang isn't (to my knowledge) under the GNU license. Maybe gocc?
- jerf 7y ago
  I think you may misunderstand the nature of the post: https://golang.org/doc/install/gccgo https://golang.org/doc/install/gccgo It's a thing that exists, not a proposal.
  - sdrothrock 7y ago
    I did, in fact! Thanks. :) I thought it was just spitballing an alternative name.
- slrz 7y ago
  Software licenses don't really matter if you implement the Go language spec with your own code. It's only when you want to share code with other implementations that software licensing enters the picture. Gccgo manages to share most of the standard library with the golang.org implementation, so they appear to have the licensing figured out.
  - sdrothrock 7y ago
    I brought up the licensing originally since I thought they were spitballing a name and the "g" in "gcc" originally stands for "GNU." So I was saying (mostly tongue-in-cheek) that it probably wouldn't be appropriate. Sorry for the confusion, and I appreciate the clarification here too. :)

chewxy 7y ago

GCCGo,llgo and tinygo are different Go compilers built and maintained by different peoples

geodel 7y ago

> I think there would be a market for a proprietary compiler and maybe an IDE to go with it There may be a market but not large enough to pay few top notch compiler/low level system software hacker. I only know of a commercial Go IDE and constant refrain there is how will a poor third world developer afford it. Though I feel real issue is developers are raised on diet of free software feels entitled to it. Paying for good software seems alien to them.

ckok 7y ago

Curious enough; we're working on just that, a commercial compiler and ide for Go. A go compiler that can compile for .NET, native Windows, native Linux and native OSX. Haven't done much performance analysis yet, the IDE and and compiler are a first priority now, and are almost done.