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Incorrect. Americans spend twice as much for healthcare as other first world countries.

archie2 7y ago
The US government already spends at least 10k per capita on healthcare - without even having a socialized medecine. More than double that of Canada at 4.8k per capita. The United States is not a free market healthcare system - it's literally the worst parts of both capitalist and socialized systems with none of the benefits of either. Also: I am Canadian, I spent nearly 50% of my earned income last year on just taxes. I also live in the most expensive city in the country. 90% of my medical expenses I've had in the past 10 years came from private practices that I paid out of pocket with a smidgen of private insurance that cushioned the blow a bit. The Canadian system is nowhere near as great as ignorant Americans like to believe.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  I grew up in Canada, have family there I visit regularly and live in America. The tax rate in California top marginal is higher than Ontario and yet one includes healthcare. You don’t think you can spent 50% of your marginal income on taxes in California? I think with the state taxes no longer deductible it’s closer to 55%. I’ve only ever had great interactions with OHIP.
  - archie2 7y ago
    You couldn't pay me to step foot in California.
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      Trust me with the amount I make they could.
jjeaff 7y ago
So he's incorrect because you think if we socialize medicine what we spend now will go down?
- Mandys23 7y ago
  He’s incorrect because he has misquoted the evidence. Canada’s wait time data is restricted to medically necessary but non-emergent procedures. It is inaccurate to say that millions of people are dying while waiting for treatment. The average wait time for a cancer patient to be seen is 3 weeks. Average. Remember, not everyone with cancer is dying. I appreciate the value of debate, but i ask that you please do your homework before you start citing the evidence

The US government already spends at least 10k per capita on healthcare - without even having a socialized medecine. More than double that of Canada at 4.8k per capita. The United States is not a free market healthcare system - it's literally the worst parts of both capitalist and socialized systems with none of the benefits of either. Also: I am Canadian, I spent nearly 50% of my earned income last year on just taxes. I also live in the most expensive city in the country. 90% of my medical expenses I've had in the past 10 years came from private practices that I paid out of pocket with a smidgen of private insurance that cushioned the blow a bit. The Canadian system is nowhere near as great as ignorant Americans like to believe.

arcticbull 7y ago
I grew up in Canada, have family there I visit regularly and live in America. The tax rate in California top marginal is higher than Ontario and yet one includes healthcare. You don’t think you can spent 50% of your marginal income on taxes in California? I think with the state taxes no longer deductible it’s closer to 55%. I’ve only ever had great interactions with OHIP.
- archie2 7y ago
  You couldn't pay me to step foot in California.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    Trust me with the amount I make they could.

jjeaff 7y ago

So he's incorrect because you think if we socialize medicine what we spend now will go down?

Mandys23 7y ago
He’s incorrect because he has misquoted the evidence. Canada’s wait time data is restricted to medically necessary but non-emergent procedures. It is inaccurate to say that millions of people are dying while waiting for treatment. The average wait time for a cancer patient to be seen is 3 weeks. Average. Remember, not everyone with cancer is dying. I appreciate the value of debate, but i ask that you please do your homework before you start citing the evidence