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It feels like there are just 0 incentives for a private prison to actually rehabilitate anyone. Perhaps private prisons could work if they were compensated base

It feels like there are just 0 incentives for a private prison to actually rehabilitate anyone. Perhaps private prisons could work if they were compensated based on recidivism rate or something

donatj 7y ago
Call me cynical but the entire law system in the United States is punitive, there is zero interest in rehabilitation by anyone in power.
- rjf72 7y ago
  One problem you face in the United States that's not present in areas where there are focuses on rehabilitation (such as Norway) is crime culture. I grew up in a very urban poor area and gang life was something that people strove for. Getting into a gang was a goal similar to how working for a FAANG might be a goal for somebody from a different culture. And the gangs act as family replacements for kids who come from mostly dysfunctional homes. The point of this is that by the time they hit their late teens and start entering the prison system, they don't see it as prison but simply a temporary time out from 'the life.' And when they get out, their time in lock up is something that's worn as a badge of honor showing how 'hard' they are. And of course since this culture starts to take a grip quite early, individuals that fall into this trap are generally going to be extremely uneducated. You're looking at adults with elementary or middle school level educations, and generally who have a very strong aversion to education in general. And so how do you rehabilitate against this? When these guys get out of lockup their options are returning to the life where they're going to met with adulation and respect. Or they can try to go get a minimum wage job bagging groceries or asking if you'd like fries with that. Even look at things such as all the dead rappers. Many of these guys had millions of dollars and could have just retired into self indulgent hedonism on a beach somewhere if they wanted. But even those millions of dollars can't take them away from 'the life', until it eventually takes their life. I'd predict here that we're going to be able to gradually see Sweden start to migrate towards a punitive based prison system as well. Before they had a negligible crime culture, but now they've entered an era where they're left engaging in hand grenade amenesties. [1] It's that sort of environment where rehabilitation gradually gives way to punitive responses. [1] - https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/give-up-your-hand-grenades-and-walk-free-swedens-explosives-amnesty-gets-under-way https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/give-up-your-hand-grenades-...

It feels like there are just 0 incentives for a private prison to actually rehabilitate anyone. Perhaps private prisons could work if they were compensated based on recidivism rate or something

donatj 7y ago

Call me cynical but the entire law system in the United States is punitive, there is zero interest in rehabilitation by anyone in power.

rjf72 7y ago
One problem you face in the United States that's not present in areas where there are focuses on rehabilitation (such as Norway) is crime culture. I grew up in a very urban poor area and gang life was something that people strove for. Getting into a gang was a goal similar to how working for a FAANG might be a goal for somebody from a different culture. And the gangs act as family replacements for kids who come from mostly dysfunctional homes. The point of this is that by the time they hit their late teens and start entering the prison system, they don't see it as prison but simply a temporary time out from 'the life.' And when they get out, their time in lock up is something that's worn as a badge of honor showing how 'hard' they are. And of course since this culture starts to take a grip quite early, individuals that fall into this trap are generally going to be extremely uneducated. You're looking at adults with elementary or middle school level educations, and generally who have a very strong aversion to education in general. And so how do you rehabilitate against this? When these guys get out of lockup their options are returning to the life where they're going to met with adulation and respect. Or they can try to go get a minimum wage job bagging groceries or asking if you'd like fries with that. Even look at things such as all the dead rappers. Many of these guys had millions of dollars and could have just retired into self indulgent hedonism on a beach somewhere if they wanted. But even those millions of dollars can't take them away from 'the life', until it eventually takes their life. I'd predict here that we're going to be able to gradually see Sweden start to migrate towards a punitive based prison system as well. Before they had a negligible crime culture, but now they've entered an era where they're left engaging in hand grenade amenesties. [1] It's that sort of environment where rehabilitation gradually gives way to punitive responses. [1] - https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/give-up-your-hand-grenades-and-walk-free-swedens-explosives-amnesty-gets-under-way https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/give-up-your-hand-grenades-...