> Without support from the USA, it would not be possible for Israel to defend itself. That is simply plain wrong. Maybe they couldn't defend against the uncou

> Without support from the USA, it would not be possible for Israel to defend itself. That is simply plain wrong. Maybe they couldn't defend against the uncountable human rights accusation and other countries putting international pressure on them. Maybe not under their current polices, ie forced land acquisition, forced demographic change and so on. > Much of their spying on the USA is not to harm the USA, but to ensure the USA is still on their side. In many ways that makes it worse. > I don't think they want to hurt the USA, but I do think they would support an opponent of a politician that had been "heard" expressing a lack of interest in financial and military support for I don't think they want to hurt the USA, but I do think they would support an opponent of a politician that had been "heard" expressing a lack of interest in financial and military support for Israel. They do that literally every day. This is quite well known and well document. You can actually go and read the stories from the congress-man who opposed Israel and what that actually means in practice. They also heavily influence things like who is appointed for diplomatic and other positions. They are currently very much directly influencing the democracy of the US so it will act with their foreign policy goals to the clear determent of actual US strategic interest.