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California is on a roll this week, it seems. Can someone local explain what’s going on?

by bnt 7y ago

MistaEd 7y ago
end of the legislative year, all bills are crammed in the last weeks
zachberger 7y ago
The current legislative session is about to close.
synaesthesisx 7y ago
Maybe if they’re ambitious they can do something about the homeless crisis next.
- blackflame7000 7y ago
  Hahaha yea right, that problem is actually hard. Cleaning up straws is much easier.
  - bdhe 7y ago
    That sort of cynicism is needless. Considering that this thread is about private prisons, a very serious issue, bringing up a literal straw man is disingenuous and completely unnecessary.
    - blackflame7000 7y ago
      It's not a strawman argument if that's really what they are spending time on that should be spent addressing far more important issues like homelessness. They shouldn't spend 1 second talking about an issue so meaningless on the list of issues they need to tackle. If you can't see that they are grabbing at low hanging fruit so that they can say they accomplished something then I think you might be a bit naive. A ban is literally the easiest cop-out for legislatures to do. No deep thinking required to blanket ban everything you don't like or perceive as problematic.
- journalctl 7y ago
  Seems like outlawing single-Family zoning should be easy, but how many NIMBYs reside in the state legislature?
- Animats 7y ago
  Trump has a plan. Concentration camps.[1] Site surveys already underway. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/10/trump-pushing-major-crackdown-homeless-camps-california-with-aides-discussing-moving-residents-government-backed-facilities/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/10/trump-pus...
  - ativzzz 7y ago
    You must have not read the article considering it mentions at best > eliminating “regulatory barriers” that White House officials believe increase the cost of building new housing. Developers have said these restrictions drive up prices on housing and limit the supply. You can argue whether or not he's actually gonna do something or just tweet out hot air, but proclaiming concentration camps is not contributing any meaningful insight.
rolltiide 7y ago
Many legislatures including ones in the united states have readings of many laws over time, and then revisit passing them all at once Instead of sporadically throughout the year California being the 5th largest world economy and relevance to the silicon valley population simply becomes of interest on this site Other states arent just twiddling their thumbs but it is interesting what California legislature is passing
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
It makes you wonder what shady stuff that the public would never approve of could be flying under the radar.
el_benhameen 7y ago
September 13th is the last day for the legislature to pass bills in the current session.
mistrial9 7y ago
signing very important things at the last minute is part of negotiations strategy.. the bills can and do change overnight
dragonwriter 7y ago
End of legislative session (so a lot of bills that need to either be passed or die are getting final action), the first legislative session under a new governor that is slightly more progressive and much less a believer in relatively narrow focus on policy change at any one time than his predecessor, and a Democratic supermajority.
- jedberg 7y ago
  > and a Democratic supermajority. This is the key. With Gov Brown, he still had a modicum of temperance that they couldn't override. Now the legislature has carte blanche to do whatever they want, because regardless of the governor, they can override his veto.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > This is the key. No, it's not. > With Gov Brown, he still had a modicum of temperance That's a difference between Brown and Newsome, yes. > that they couldn't override. There was a Democratic supermajority for a session under Brown, too, but (both now and then) the Democrats in the legislature aren't marching in lockstep on the rare issues where there is a majority in conflict with the Democratic governor, so while the supermajority is significant, it's more because (1) it means swinging a few votes isn't enough to deny a majority, and (2) some legislation requires a supermajority even without a veto, not because of he possibility for veto overrides of a same-party governor.

California is on a roll this week, it seems. Can someone local explain what’s going on?

by bnt 7y ago

California is on a roll this week, it seems. Can someone local explain what’s going on?

MistaEd 7y ago

end of the legislative year, all bills are crammed in the last weeks

zachberger 7y ago

The current legislative session is about to close.

synaesthesisx 7y ago

Maybe if they’re ambitious they can do something about the homeless crisis next.

blackflame7000 7y ago
Hahaha yea right, that problem is actually hard. Cleaning up straws is much easier.
- bdhe 7y ago
  That sort of cynicism is needless. Considering that this thread is about private prisons, a very serious issue, bringing up a literal straw man is disingenuous and completely unnecessary.
  - blackflame7000 7y ago
    It's not a strawman argument if that's really what they are spending time on that should be spent addressing far more important issues like homelessness. They shouldn't spend 1 second talking about an issue so meaningless on the list of issues they need to tackle. If you can't see that they are grabbing at low hanging fruit so that they can say they accomplished something then I think you might be a bit naive. A ban is literally the easiest cop-out for legislatures to do. No deep thinking required to blanket ban everything you don't like or perceive as problematic.
journalctl 7y ago
Seems like outlawing single-Family zoning should be easy, but how many NIMBYs reside in the state legislature?
Animats 7y ago
Trump has a plan. Concentration camps.[1] Site surveys already underway. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/10/trump-pushing-major-crackdown-homeless-camps-california-with-aides-discussing-moving-residents-government-backed-facilities/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/10/trump-pus...
- ativzzz 7y ago
  You must have not read the article considering it mentions at best > eliminating “regulatory barriers” that White House officials believe increase the cost of building new housing. Developers have said these restrictions drive up prices on housing and limit the supply. You can argue whether or not he's actually gonna do something or just tweet out hot air, but proclaiming concentration camps is not contributing any meaningful insight.

rolltiide 7y ago

Many legislatures including ones in the united states have readings of many laws over time, and then revisit passing them all at once Instead of sporadically throughout the year California being the 5th largest world economy and relevance to the silicon valley population simply becomes of interest on this site Other states arent just twiddling their thumbs but it is interesting what California legislature is passing

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

It makes you wonder what shady stuff that the public would never approve of could be flying under the radar.

el_benhameen 7y ago

September 13th is the last day for the legislature to pass bills in the current session.

mistrial9 7y ago

signing very important things at the last minute is part of negotiations strategy.. the bills can and do change overnight

dragonwriter 7y ago

End of legislative session (so a lot of bills that need to either be passed or die are getting final action), the first legislative session under a new governor that is slightly more progressive and much less a believer in relatively narrow focus on policy change at any one time than his predecessor, and a Democratic supermajority.

jedberg 7y ago
> and a Democratic supermajority. This is the key. With Gov Brown, he still had a modicum of temperance that they couldn't override. Now the legislature has carte blanche to do whatever they want, because regardless of the governor, they can override his veto.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > This is the key. No, it's not. > With Gov Brown, he still had a modicum of temperance That's a difference between Brown and Newsome, yes. > that they couldn't override. There was a Democratic supermajority for a session under Brown, too, but (both now and then) the Democrats in the legislature aren't marching in lockstep on the rare issues where there is a majority in conflict with the Democratic governor, so while the supermajority is significant, it's more because (1) it means swinging a few votes isn't enough to deny a majority, and (2) some legislation requires a supermajority even without a veto, not because of he possibility for veto overrides of a same-party governor.