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This is a great point. I see people bringing up lots of questions and concerns about these devices, but it's missing a critical point: these were designed with
by peterwwillis 7y ago
This is a great point. I see people bringing up lots of questions and concerns about these devices, but it's missing a critical point: these were designed with specific use cases in mind. They are only useful for people in cities to go short distances. And within that scope, they are an excellent addition to other transportation options.
What you mention is actually what I want to build next: micro-mobility for larger errands. If I buy a trunk load of groceries from the Wal-Mart 6 miles from me, I want to be able to bring it home. I'm hoping to start designing devices that fit this use case. Once they exist, they'll provide tons of benefits: more affordable than a car, the ability to perform trips faster than with public transit, and more compact "traffic" on roads compared to cars (to say nothing of emissions).
Another use of these devices is actually changing people's life decisions. I moved to my current address because it's very close to a subway and trolley line. But now that I use an electric scooter to get to work, I could move anywhere that's the same distance. I think there'll be tons of these little wins found as the devices expand more. (I should note, my city does not have any rental scooters, but I see people riding their own all over the place)
As batteries get better, I think we're going to start seeing more variety of devices tailored for more use cases. The scooter will own the short trip into work, whereas larger devices will be used for cruising off-road, even hauling a sheet of plywood from Home Depot.
- egypturnash 7y ago> If I buy a trunk load of groceries from the Wal-Mart 6 miles from me, I want to be able to bring it home. Have you considered an electric bike plus some kind of trailer, or an electric cargo bike? Or even an electric trike.
- peterwwillis 7y agoYes, and that's a great general purpose solution. The problem comes when you try to market this as a replacement for a car, and then it doesn't work. The platform is too narrow, some require lots of fiddling to get right, you don't have a comfortable seat, you're open to inclement weather, you have to already have a decent e-bike, etc. Taking a lot of time to find your own solution is one thing, but providing everyone a one-size-fits-all (remember, the intention is to prevent people from needing a car) involves a lot of considerations. With every change you have to reconsider the whole design, because even small changes significantly affect the ride.
- UnFleshedOne 7y agoElectric shopping carts? Here we sometimes have walmart's shopping carts parked 1-2 km away from wallmart...