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How do you realistically expect to prevent a company (that uses facial recognition for perhaps useful features e.g. tagging) from scanning your face? For it to

How do you realistically expect to prevent a company (that uses facial recognition for perhaps useful features e.g. tagging) from scanning your face? For it to know that the pixels it sees is your face, it has to have a model of your face somewhere. I guess there is no good solution to this problem.

homonculus1 7y ago
If there's no good way for these companies to respect individual privacy then they should be prohibited from applying these technologies at scale.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  No one is forcing you to buy.
  - homonculus1 7y ago
    Untrue. When my neighbor is filming the street with his facial recognition doorbell, my family keep cloud-connected audio recorders in their homes, and my friends and acquaintances are uploading their contact lists for analysis, my privacy is systematically violated and I am subject to the surveillance network beyond any choice of my own. It is simply ignorant to tell me I can vote with my wallet, I would have to cut social ties and move into the wilderness to escape these abusive information-gathering practices.
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      What about mail via USPS ? USPS now knows your address.
    - scarejunba 7y ago
      Doesn't that mean you have to go after your neighbour, your family, and you friends? HN has no protection to stop me from putting my friend's email here (see@example.com) and you don't go after HN for that. You'd go after me for sharing your details.
nerdjon 7y ago
For me, I have less issue with the fact that the technology exists. My biggest issue comes from where the processing is being done. If it was 100% on device I would be more ok with it. Same for processing photos and anything else that needs to be done with my data. But most companies instead ship all of your (and other people's data you happen to have) to their servers.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  That is not possible on every device given memory and battery restrictions.

homonculus1 7y ago

If there's no good way for these companies to respect individual privacy then they should be prohibited from applying these technologies at scale.

mav3rick 7y ago
No one is forcing you to buy.
- homonculus1 7y ago
  Untrue. When my neighbor is filming the street with his facial recognition doorbell, my family keep cloud-connected audio recorders in their homes, and my friends and acquaintances are uploading their contact lists for analysis, my privacy is systematically violated and I am subject to the surveillance network beyond any choice of my own. It is simply ignorant to tell me I can vote with my wallet, I would have to cut social ties and move into the wilderness to escape these abusive information-gathering practices.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    What about mail via USPS ? USPS now knows your address.
  - scarejunba 7y ago
    Doesn't that mean you have to go after your neighbour, your family, and you friends? HN has no protection to stop me from putting my friend's email here (see@example.com) and you don't go after HN for that. You'd go after me for sharing your details.

nerdjon 7y ago

For me, I have less issue with the fact that the technology exists. My biggest issue comes from where the processing is being done. If it was 100% on device I would be more ok with it. Same for processing photos and anything else that needs to be done with my data. But most companies instead ship all of your (and other people's data you happen to have) to their servers.

mav3rick 7y ago
That is not possible on every device given memory and battery restrictions.