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I am hoping they go with Matrix, least then I will be able to have the choice of having a client appropriate to my needs. I do prefer my chat client to not be

by dngray 7y ago

I am hoping they go with Matrix, least then I will be able to have the choice of having a client appropriate to my needs. I do prefer my chat client to not be a part of my browser. That way I can close my browser, start my browser and chat client on login ie from i3/sway etc. A tab in a browser runs the risk of getting closed. I love using weechat (weechat.org) and have used it for decades. The Matrix plugin for Weechat is really well done https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix Other people who want to use Riot can if they want at the end of the day I think matrix is probably the best option as it will cater for many people's needs.

buboard 7y ago
> client to not be a part of my browser. But that should also be an option too. Matrix could be great to integrate with for both private and public web communities , and that would incentivize people to create more homeservers. There is currently a lack of such solutions for communities and matrix could fill that gap. It's just sad that we have to end up sending people to sign up to discord .
Arathorn 7y ago
weechat-matrix even supports single sign on login (as of yesterday: https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/commit/1a846d61ae07bf01dace834c92b61b4b236772aa https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/commit/1a846d61ae07...) so it should work nicely with Mozilla's IAM SSO: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IAM/Frequently_asked_questions https://wiki.mozilla.org/IAM/Frequently_asked_questions
693471 7y ago
You really don't want Matrix. One year of Matrix to IRC bridge cost me about 30GB in Postgresql database to hold the state/logs of everything. It was less than 500MB of plaintext irssi logs.
- shantly 7y ago
  Did you figure out what's with the 60x bloat? Badly denormalized and storing tons of metadata? Storing images/video?
  - Arathorn 7y ago
    badly denormalised; every state change stored a snapshot of all the state in the room. so everytime someone joined a room it snapshotted the state of everyone else in the room. it has now been improved massively, and there is scope for further fixes. sorry that the GP got bit by it.
- ptman 7y ago
  This too keeps improving

by dngray 7y ago

buboard 7y ago

> client to not be a part of my browser. But that should also be an option too. Matrix could be great to integrate with for both private and public web communities , and that would incentivize people to create more homeservers. There is currently a lack of such solutions for communities and matrix could fill that gap. It's just sad that we have to end up sending people to sign up to discord .

Arathorn 7y ago

weechat-matrix even supports single sign on login (as of yesterday: https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/commit/1a846d61ae07bf01dace834c92b61b4b236772aa https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/commit/1a846d61ae07...) so it should work nicely with Mozilla's IAM SSO: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IAM/Frequently_asked_questions https://wiki.mozilla.org/IAM/Frequently_asked_questions

693471 7y ago

You really don't want Matrix. One year of Matrix to IRC bridge cost me about 30GB in Postgresql database to hold the state/logs of everything. It was less than 500MB of plaintext irssi logs.

shantly 7y ago
Did you figure out what's with the 60x bloat? Badly denormalized and storing tons of metadata? Storing images/video?
- Arathorn 7y ago
  badly denormalised; every state change stored a snapshot of all the state in the room. so everytime someone joined a room it snapshotted the state of everyone else in the room. it has now been improved massively, and there is scope for further fixes. sorry that the GP got bit by it.
ptman 7y ago
This too keeps improving