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Hey there. I was in your shoes, as well. I was fired from the first organization where I'd been employed in a particular technical role, the one in which I in
by hotsauceror 7y ago
Hey there. I was in your shoes, as well. I was fired from the first organization where I'd been employed in a particular technical role, the one in which I intended to make my career. I was good at it technically but had a number of personality conflicts, partly out of frustration with things that were happening at the company and partly from personal shortcomings of my own in dealing with those frustrations. They fired me for "performance" which - take heart - can basically mean anything and nothing, and is much, much easier to deal with than having been fired "for cause".
It was scary, and I wondered exactly the same things you did. I can offer you this advice FWIW. I found another job within 6 weeks of being let go, and I had two other offers on the table.
* Be honest. If the web form asks you if you left the company voluntarily, say no. If you left on bad terms, they'll generally ask you whether they can contact your last employer for a reference, and you can say no. They'll get the picture.
* That said, you don't exactly have to lead off every interview with it. Honestly, I don't think any of the interviewers I talked with even asked me about it. They're interested in their own impressions of you and the work you've done.
* You should prepare a short explanation that - and this is important - doesn't blame or denigrate your prior employer. I mean it. Swallow whatever feelings you have about the situation and be professional about it. A new employer may not care about the circumstances of your leaving your last gig, but they WILL certainly care about the bitter, angry guy they just interviewed for this position. Something along the lines of "My leadership and I agreed that I was no longer a good fit for the position." It sounds gross, I know, but it's not really meant to be believed, and allows everyone to save a little face.
* If they press you, you might frame it as "personality conflicts" or "communications issues". However you decide to frame it, rehearse the explanation and maybe a quick followup. You don't want to start to ramble when you're on the spot, because that'll make you nervous and you may stumble into saying something you regret.
I know exactly what you're going through. We had just bought a house, we had a nine-month-old baby, and we didn't have much in the way of savings. It was scary as hell. But you square yourself up, set your jaw, and do what you have to do. You'll get through it, and one day you'll laugh about it. I promise you you're not the first person who's been fired. Hang in there.
- mistersquid 7y agoI went through a different situation about 18 months back, the upshot being I voluntarily left as well as being unable to ask for references. I was devastated at the tine and it took me a year to recover. Your advice is excellent, full of pragmatic wisdom and, had I encountered similar guidance during my convalescence, I likely would have regained my confidence sooner. Especially useful is your suggestion to “be professional about it” as a contextualization for words “that are not really meant to be believed, and allows everyone to save a little face”. (My problem was partly that I was so angry about being mistreated that I thought the truth should come out and my manager should be held accountable. If I could have let that go sooner, I’d have recovered faster.)
- jhatemyjob 7y agoThank you. This helps a lot.