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Welcome Manna. https://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm https://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

fouc 7y ago
In some ways, the notion of humans as instruction-following-meat-robots actually just feels like an extension of a todo list or a check list, but with AI. So basically I could give the computer my task list, my goals, or whatever, along with data about my energy levels, mood, etc. Then it could return an optimized & personalized set of "Do X for the next 5 minutes, do Y for the next 15 minutes" instructions. That could result in significantly more productivity. I'm quite the fan of the exocortex notion - the computer as an external brain that extends my intelligence, productivity, etc.
SECProto 7y ago
Was there some other short story about a similar concept (AI managed fast food workers)? Something by Stallman or Doctorow maybe? I have vague deja-vu at that story, but from much longer ago than 2017, when Manna was published.
- hnick 7y ago
  It's from 2003. I guess the copyright notice became a hassle to update after 2017 :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel)
  - SECProto 7y ago
    That explains it, thanks!
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chillacy 7y ago
A lot going on there, my main observations: 1. the Australia Project resembles the society in Ian Banks' series The Culture 2. Curious that a post-capitalist society uses credits to ensure allocation, sort of a UBI, but it seems to gloss over a couple details: 2a. Do credits accrue or is it use-it-or-lose-it? 2b. It sounds like credits can be transferred between people (the space elevator story), what stops credit accrual from skewing via the Pareto Law into the same 1% having 99% of credits?
- aidenn0 7y ago
  Space elevator is not credits transferred between people. It is credits being transferred to the public good. Lots of people wanted a space elevator, so they crowdfunded it, but the ownership of the elevator is public; i.e. you get access to the elevator regardless of whether or not you funded its construction.

fouc 7y ago

In some ways, the notion of humans as instruction-following-meat-robots actually just feels like an extension of a todo list or a check list, but with AI. So basically I could give the computer my task list, my goals, or whatever, along with data about my energy levels, mood, etc. Then it could return an optimized & personalized set of "Do X for the next 5 minutes, do Y for the next 15 minutes" instructions. That could result in significantly more productivity. I'm quite the fan of the exocortex notion - the computer as an external brain that extends my intelligence, productivity, etc.

SECProto 7y ago

Was there some other short story about a similar concept (AI managed fast food workers)? Something by Stallman or Doctorow maybe? I have vague deja-vu at that story, but from much longer ago than 2017, when Manna was published.

hnick 7y ago
It's from 2003. I guess the copyright notice became a hassle to update after 2017 :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel)
- SECProto 7y ago
  That explains it, thanks!
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chillacy 7y ago

A lot going on there, my main observations: 1. the Australia Project resembles the society in Ian Banks' series The Culture 2. Curious that a post-capitalist society uses credits to ensure allocation, sort of a UBI, but it seems to gloss over a couple details: 2a. Do credits accrue or is it use-it-or-lose-it? 2b. It sounds like credits can be transferred between people (the space elevator story), what stops credit accrual from skewing via the Pareto Law into the same 1% having 99% of credits?

aidenn0 7y ago
Space elevator is not credits transferred between people. It is credits being transferred to the public good. Lots of people wanted a space elevator, so they crowdfunded it, but the ownership of the elevator is public; i.e. you get access to the elevator regardless of whether or not you funded its construction.