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"If it was flying by slowly, it would get caught by the sun’s gravity and end up in a circular orbit around the sun. If the orbit was perfectly circular, it wou
by _kst_ 7y ago
"If it was flying by slowly, it would get caught by the sun’s gravity and end up in a circular orbit around the sun. If the orbit was perfectly circular, it would have an eccentricity of 0."
An interstellar object cannot be flying by slowly enough to enter a circular orbit. If it were, it would already have been in a circular orbit. Trajectories can be extrapolated both into the future and into the past. It has enough momentum to escape the Solar System if and only if it came from outside the Solar System.
This assumes the only interaction is the gravitational pull between the Sun and the object. A close approach to Jupiter, for example, might slow an incoming object into an elliptical orbit, or speed a Solar System object into a hyperbolic escape trajectory.
- davidmurdoch 7y agoIt it not at all possible for an interstellar object to be captured into a stable solar orbit?
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- lojack 7y agoCaptured into a stable orbit, sure, but it will never have an eccentricity of 0 (circular). The limit can approach zero, but will never be equal to it. Even the planets don’t have a circular orbit FWIW.
- _kst_ 7y agoAn interstellar object cannot be captured into a stable orbit unless some other force (such as Jupiter's gravity) acts on it. Orbits are time-symmetric, so an interstellar object being captured into a stable elliptical orbit would be equivalent to an object in a stable elliptical orbit escaping the Solar System (again, ignoring other influences).
- tempestn 7y agoIs that true of comets as well? It seems conceivable to me that the sun could spin it around such that the comet's off-gassing could reduce its speed and allow it to be captured. Obviously unlikely, and highly dependent on conditions (in particular incoming velocity) but possible.
- lojack 7y agoIf you're ignoring all other influences then there is no such thing as interstellar objects. By definition, every object in a two body system are gravationally bound to each other.
- ravar 7y agoThis is so wrong. Objects can have enough energy that will become arbitrary far apart as time passes. In no sense are the objects bound together in that case.
- greglindahl 7y agoNot without interacting with a 3rd body, such as Jupiter.
- ars 7y agoOr, apparently, if it crosses an event horizon, although I've never properly understood how that works. (Explanations I've found typically just say: "All paths from a black hole are toward the black hole."
- greglindahl 7y agoMost things flying towards a black hole don't cross the event horizon thanks to angular momentum. Stars tend to get torn apart, go into the accretion disk, and then eventually fall in. But we don't have a big black hole in the solar system.
- DavidSJ 7y agoFor present purposes the Newtonian approximation suffices, and in Newtonian gravity there are no black holes and no event horizons.