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FWIW I do have other experience. I have been programming for fun since 2010. And I started programming "professionally" since 2014, but it's not at in a traditi

FWIW I do have other experience. I have been programming for fun since 2010. And I started programming "professionally" since 2014, but it's not at in a traditional job setting. I had a couple of products on the App Store but the market changed and the money dried up. Hence the job, and why I wanted a year of experience. ALSO, there was another team that I think I would have been a much better fit for (tech lead actually gave a shit about programming and gave people autonomy) but unfortunately I did not take the initiative to switch over. I have references from other people at the company as well, including the CTO, that I actually liked working with, and they liked working with me. Unfortunately they were not on my team.

StudentStuff 7y ago
Only volunteer your good references, and consider auditing your ex-employer by having a friend call HR asking about dates of employment, performance and references. Many states restrict what can be said about former employees, double check that what HR says is compliant with your local laws.
- jhatemyjob 7y ago
  There was no HR.
  - gt2 7y ago
    In a small company, some other position will field the inquiry. Could be CEO themselves, or their assistant, or some other executive/partner.
Robin_Message 7y ago
Lots have people have talked about how to conduct yourself. With regard to references, I'm not sure if this is right for your situation, but consider the following: If you got on with the CTO, I would reach out to them and ask if they could be your reference. Since they outrank your manager, most companies will happily take a reference from them, especially if you worked with them directly a bit. It might be a tricky political conversation, but if you suggest that you were disappointed how things ended, and you know how sometimes your manager can, how shall we say, put things in a negative light, they really ought to be willing. (If you're somewhere with labour laws, consider talking to a lawyer, and be willing to threaten to get a good reference and a resignation, not a firing.) Any new company, just give the CTO as the reference. If asked about it, just say something like they were best placed to assess you during your time at the company where you worked with a variety of people.

StudentStuff 7y ago

Only volunteer your good references, and consider auditing your ex-employer by having a friend call HR asking about dates of employment, performance and references. Many states restrict what can be said about former employees, double check that what HR says is compliant with your local laws.

jhatemyjob 7y ago
There was no HR.
- gt2 7y ago
  In a small company, some other position will field the inquiry. Could be CEO themselves, or their assistant, or some other executive/partner.

Robin_Message 7y ago

Lots have people have talked about how to conduct yourself. With regard to references, I'm not sure if this is right for your situation, but consider the following: If you got on with the CTO, I would reach out to them and ask if they could be your reference. Since they outrank your manager, most companies will happily take a reference from them, especially if you worked with them directly a bit. It might be a tricky political conversation, but if you suggest that you were disappointed how things ended, and you know how sometimes your manager can, how shall we say, put things in a negative light, they really ought to be willing. (If you're somewhere with labour laws, consider talking to a lawyer, and be willing to threaten to get a good reference and a resignation, not a firing.) Any new company, just give the CTO as the reference. If asked about it, just say something like they were best placed to assess you during your time at the company where you worked with a variety of people.