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I’d say Pax has won this category.

opportune 7y ago
Pax is positioned too high in the market to really win. And it’s still not as easy to clean as it could be
hprotagonist 7y ago
Nope. Arizer and Storz and Bickel are up there and absolutely pulling their weight. The solo, volcano/mighty/crafty are certainly well known, so Pax doesn't have the lock down on brand recognition. There's a second tier of cheap-but-probably-safe that's companies like boundless or healthy rips. Then there are the fan favorites / esoteric-nerd things like dynavap or the aforementioned basemenet-makers or hobbyist/lifestyle companies. They're not going to hit mass-market volume but they've got the nerds covered. Pax is killing it with the Era (but that's for concentrates) and their parent company is Juul, so they're well positioned -- but they are not setting the trend of the market at all. They continue to make good-but-overpriced conduction-only units that are increasingly just totally eclipsed by convection/hybrid units with replaceable batteries or alternative heat sources.
- simlevesque 7y ago
  the Pax Era is one of the worst concentrate portable device on the market.
  - hprotagonist 7y ago
    it's also pretty limited; they're not available in my state, for example. The partnership-with-local-concentrate-producers plan means, as far as i can tell, that the quality varies wildly.
  - vokep 7y ago
    Why do you say this? It isn't the most cost effective maybe, but it is convenient and the bluetooth control stuff is kinda nice.
    - simlevesque 7y ago
      Because there are numerous better device available like the Saionara, Molecule, Quartz Quest v4, TRVP and many others
      - vokep 7y ago
        Wow, I had no idea about any of these. Good to know!
        simlevesque 7y ago
        check out r/waxpen
- ElatedOwl 7y ago
  For portable non-concentrate, Mighty by Storz and Bickel is hands down the best device I've used. The engineering is flawless: amazing battery life, extremely durable, easily replaceable wear/tear parts, use while charging, fast heat up times, a poker built into the base of it... I could go on. It was pricey but I've had it 4+ years, with no signs of decaying battery life or any non wear/tear part replacement, despite a lot of use and a lot of abuse.

Pax is positioned too high in the market to really win. And it’s still not as easy to clean as it could be

Nope. Arizer and Storz and Bickel are up there and absolutely pulling their weight. The solo, volcano/mighty/crafty are certainly well known, so Pax doesn't have the lock down on brand recognition. There's a second tier of cheap-but-probably-safe that's companies like boundless or healthy rips. Then there are the fan favorites / esoteric-nerd things like dynavap or the aforementioned basemenet-makers or hobbyist/lifestyle companies. They're not going to hit mass-market volume but they've got the nerds covered. Pax is killing it with the Era (but that's for concentrates) and their parent company is Juul, so they're well positioned -- but they are not setting the trend of the market at all. They continue to make good-but-overpriced conduction-only units that are increasingly just totally eclipsed by convection/hybrid units with replaceable batteries or alternative heat sources.

simlevesque 7y ago
the Pax Era is one of the worst concentrate portable device on the market.
- hprotagonist 7y ago
  it's also pretty limited; they're not available in my state, for example. The partnership-with-local-concentrate-producers plan means, as far as i can tell, that the quality varies wildly.
- vokep 7y ago
  Why do you say this? It isn't the most cost effective maybe, but it is convenient and the bluetooth control stuff is kinda nice.
  - simlevesque 7y ago
    Because there are numerous better device available like the Saionara, Molecule, Quartz Quest v4, TRVP and many others
    - vokep 7y ago
      Wow, I had no idea about any of these. Good to know!
      - simlevesque 7y ago
        check out r/waxpen
ElatedOwl 7y ago
For portable non-concentrate, Mighty by Storz and Bickel is hands down the best device I've used. The engineering is flawless: amazing battery life, extremely durable, easily replaceable wear/tear parts, use while charging, fast heat up times, a poker built into the base of it... I could go on. It was pricey but I've had it 4+ years, with no signs of decaying battery life or any non wear/tear part replacement, despite a lot of use and a lot of abuse.