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This coming from someone who lives in a city (Milford, NJ) with a median family income of $62,167 USD that is 97% white. Ouch. (Also, today I learned about Hac

by getsat 16y ago

This coming from someone who lives in a city (Milford, NJ) with a median family income of $62,167 USD that is 97% white. Ouch. (Also, today I learned about HackerNewsers from your profile. Very cool site!)

CWuestefeld 16y ago
If you're expecting to get me upset by looking up my demographics, you're wrong. I wouldn't have posted that if I cared. But it's funny how much you think you know about me and how wrong you are. For example, I don't live in Milford, NJ. That is, in fact, my mailing address, and if you plug that into your GPS you will indeed arrive at my house, but the world is slightly more complicated than that -- as is the topic of the OP. I'll leave it to you to puzzle out how both of those might be. Your statement about Milford being "97% white" reveals more about you than it does me, I think. It reveals that, for some reason, you believe that race is important; why else would you go looking for the racial makeup of my (purported) community? It reveals little about me, since you'll find that (assuming you're using Wikipedia's numbers) my household would make up over 3% of the town's non-white population (if I did indeed live in Milford). I happen to fall into the largest age cohort cited. And if you knew my address, you'd also see that my property is actually smaller than the minimum zoned acreage, being grandfathered in. What the heck does any of this have to do with (a) equality of Americans; or (b) the fact that we've seen so darned many of these articles recently on HN?
- getsat 16y ago
  Sorry, my intent was not to belittle or enrage. I was merely pointing out the fact that, based upon provided data, you, as a developer, are quite far removed from the lower end of the income spectrum. Your comment seemed to give a vibe of "I don't care about this because it doesn't affect me and the fact that I am even hearing about it is pissing me off." My apologies if that is not the case. (Disclaimer: I am not from the USA.) White people make up the majority of the population in the northeastern USA. Minorities tend to be poorer. That's a statistical fact. A developer in a white town is probably doing better than most people around him. It's an important issue. I hope there are more articles about this topic. They're more interesting than articles about del.iciou.us being killed by Yahoo.
  - anamax 16y ago
    > Sorry, my intent was not to belittle or enrage. I was merely pointing out the fact that, based upon provided data, you, as a developer, are quite far removed from the lower end of the income spectrum. Bite me. You don't know anything about where he comes from or how he got where he is now. Heck - you don't even know that he's not one of the saintly 3%. You're just looking to claim some high ground so you can start a pissing contest. > (Disclaimer: I am not from the USA.) Perhaps you should refrain from comments that depend on knowledge that you don't have.
    - getsat 16y ago
      Do I really need to have been born in the USA to be able to read published statistical data about the population? That seems to be an odd dependency. As I said, my intent was not to belittle, nor is it to "win" any kind of contest. The desire to be part of a winning team has turned the tide from reason and logic to emotion in modern discourse (and especially politics). I don't care if I don't "win" as long as I'm forced, at a minimum, to reevaluate my position and beliefs. Also, what do you mean by "saintly"?
      - anamax 16y ago
        > Do I really need to have been born in the USA to be able to read published statistical data about the population? I'm not disputing your ability to read. I'm pointing out that your conclusions were faulty. Was I wrong to assume that more knowledge might have helped you avoid the error? > As I said, my intent was not to belittle, nor is it to "win" any kind of contest. Then you should work on ensuring that your intent is reflected in what you write. > The desire to be part of a winning team has turned the tide from reason and logic to emotion in modern discourse (and especially politics). Projection....

by getsat 16y ago

CWuestefeld 16y ago

If you're expecting to get me upset by looking up my demographics, you're wrong. I wouldn't have posted that if I cared. But it's funny how much you think you know about me and how wrong you are. For example, I don't live in Milford, NJ. That is, in fact, my mailing address, and if you plug that into your GPS you will indeed arrive at my house, but the world is slightly more complicated than that -- as is the topic of the OP. I'll leave it to you to puzzle out how both of those might be. Your statement about Milford being "97% white" reveals more about you than it does me, I think. It reveals that, for some reason, you believe that race is important; why else would you go looking for the racial makeup of my (purported) community? It reveals little about me, since you'll find that (assuming you're using Wikipedia's numbers) my household would make up over 3% of the town's non-white population (if I did indeed live in Milford). I happen to fall into the largest age cohort cited. And if you knew my address, you'd also see that my property is actually smaller than the minimum zoned acreage, being grandfathered in. What the heck does any of this have to do with (a) equality of Americans; or (b) the fact that we've seen so darned many of these articles recently on HN?

getsat 16y ago
Sorry, my intent was not to belittle or enrage. I was merely pointing out the fact that, based upon provided data, you, as a developer, are quite far removed from the lower end of the income spectrum. Your comment seemed to give a vibe of "I don't care about this because it doesn't affect me and the fact that I am even hearing about it is pissing me off." My apologies if that is not the case. (Disclaimer: I am not from the USA.) White people make up the majority of the population in the northeastern USA. Minorities tend to be poorer. That's a statistical fact. A developer in a white town is probably doing better than most people around him. It's an important issue. I hope there are more articles about this topic. They're more interesting than articles about del.iciou.us being killed by Yahoo.
- anamax 16y ago
  > Sorry, my intent was not to belittle or enrage. I was merely pointing out the fact that, based upon provided data, you, as a developer, are quite far removed from the lower end of the income spectrum. Bite me. You don't know anything about where he comes from or how he got where he is now. Heck - you don't even know that he's not one of the saintly 3%. You're just looking to claim some high ground so you can start a pissing contest. > (Disclaimer: I am not from the USA.) Perhaps you should refrain from comments that depend on knowledge that you don't have.
  - getsat 16y ago
    Do I really need to have been born in the USA to be able to read published statistical data about the population? That seems to be an odd dependency. As I said, my intent was not to belittle, nor is it to "win" any kind of contest. The desire to be part of a winning team has turned the tide from reason and logic to emotion in modern discourse (and especially politics). I don't care if I don't "win" as long as I'm forced, at a minimum, to reevaluate my position and beliefs. Also, what do you mean by "saintly"?
    - anamax 16y ago
      > Do I really need to have been born in the USA to be able to read published statistical data about the population? I'm not disputing your ability to read. I'm pointing out that your conclusions were faulty. Was I wrong to assume that more knowledge might have helped you avoid the error? > As I said, my intent was not to belittle, nor is it to "win" any kind of contest. Then you should work on ensuring that your intent is reflected in what you write. > The desire to be part of a winning team has turned the tide from reason and logic to emotion in modern discourse (and especially politics). Projection....