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Duo implements a proprietary setup layer over HOTP (counter based instead of time based, useful for hardware key generators that don't have a clock). I needed i
by the_pwner224 7y ago
Duo implements a proprietary setup layer over HOTP (counter based instead of time based, useful for hardware key generators that don't have a clock). I needed it for my University and internship, and was able to set it up on an Android emulator (or rooted device), copy the secret key and counter off of the app's config file, and then use it on my laptop.
On the computer I have ~/.totp/ which contains files like `github` with the secret key as the file content. In my bashrc I made a function which runs oathtool on the contents of the given filename to generate the 6 digit code and then copies it to the clipboard with xclip (run it like `$ totp github`).
For the duo thing, I had to make the same `name` file with the secret key as the content, and a `name-counter` file with an integer. I put a hotp function in bashrc, so running `hotp name` generates the 6 digit code, copies it to the clipboard, and increments the counter.
I had to tell Duo I was adding a tablet (since the emulator had no phone number), it gives a QR code with a URL as a backup; I opened the URL in the emulator which opened the Duo app in the emulator and finished the setup. Then on the host computer run adb shell and cat out /data/data/com.duosecurity.duomobile/files/duokit/accounts.json from the emulator shell (or the shell on your rooted Android)
Get the 'otpSecret' and counter, at the end of otpSecret replace the \u003d with its actual character: '=', then put the secret into the file ~/.otp/name and the counter into ~/.otp/name-counter
Turns out I actually put a tiny script in my PATH instead of adding a function to bashrc:
#!/bin/sh
typeset -i counter=$(<~/.otp/name-counter)
oathtool --hotp -b $(<~/.otp/name) -c $counter | xclip -selection clipboard
echo $((counter + 1)) >~/.otp/name-counter
On macOS there's a `clip` command which you will have to use instead of xclip to copy to clipboard.
I have saved a very old (2 years?) version of the Duo APK which works great for this (or at least was working great the last time I tried, 2 months ago). The newer app versions refuse to run without Google Play Services, but you can still make a throwaway andorid emulator with GPS. I'd like to share the APK I have, but no way to do so without linking this pseudonym to my real identity...
The most idiotic thing is that basically the entire 2FA ecosystem fucked up into turning 2FA into phoneFA. Your password is a secret, it can be guessed by some hacker on the other side of the world, so let's have two secrets, with the second one being unguessably long and only known to your hardware, so that it can make a human-sized login code. There are standards for this like TOTP and HOTP, but instead of having basically password managers for these secret keys, we get SMS auth and Duo and Authy, with no way for a normal person to generate otp codes on their actual computer. Google Authenticator and even the Duo app actually allow you to scan QR codes with TOTP secret keys and get the 6 digit OTPs from their app, but Duo itself won't let you use the standards to login, or to do it on your computer.
For completeness, here's the TOTP function in my bashrc:
function totp() {
oathtool --totp -b $(<~/".totp/${1}") | xclip -selection clipboard;
}
So if you have a file ~/.totp/github with the secret key as the content, you would open a terminal (or something like Guake/Yakuake) and run the command `totp github` and the 6-digit OTP would be in your clipboard.
- bubblethink 7y agoI have been doing the same on AOSP with the andOTP app. Can't get why large companies/universities have boners for proprietary crap like duo. A company comes along and says, "Here's some textbook standard stuff, and here we add our lock-in on top of it. Would you like the lock-in ?" And everyone says, "Yes please." For those suffering, this helps: https://github.com/puddly/android-otp-extractor https://github.com/puddly/android-otp-extractor Edit: Responding to your edit >with the second one being very long and only known to your hardware. There are standards for this like totp and HOTP, TOTP/HOTP don't provide phishing protection. Neither does Duo (which is largely HOTP), but that's a different issue. >but instead of having basically password managers for these secret keys, we get SMS auth and duo and authy, with no way for a normal person to generate otp codes on their actual computer SMS auth is terrible, but TOTP/HOTP are also hard to secure. There isn't a meaningful way of securing the secret, and computers are far more insecure than phones. You don't want your 2nd factor on the computer if that's your first factor too. So the right way forward is hardware based keys. However, it should all still be open standards based. Not some hacked up garbage that needs google play services.
- nickphx 7y agoThe universities often receive "grants" from the vendors to foster initial development along with incentives provided based on adoption and usage.. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2019/04/24/asu-contract-cengage-shows-fee-sharing-agreement-econ-course/3564577002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education...
- nwmcsween 7y agoIt's not just universities, it's basically any Windows centric place that seems to gravitate towards packaged solutions rather than understanding or implementing the tech piecemeal.
- bubblethink 7y agoI feel that at least public universities have some responsibility to not peddle garbage like this. I don't know if there are laws about this, but requiring students/staff to use play services and blobs to access university infrastructure (all paid for by taxes and fees) shouldn't be a thing.