> 12k in the US is not so bad for costs other than healthcare (lots of families of 3 are living on $35,000). Lots may be doing it, but you'd be living in pover

> 12k in the US is not so bad for costs other than healthcare (lots of families of 3 are living on $35,000). Lots may be doing it, but you'd be living in poverty your whole life. There's no way a family of 3 could get by on 35k a year without accumulating debt. 12k hardly covers just your rent in many places in the US