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well a problem is that lgbtq doesnt belong together anyway because what are you fighting for? sexual orientation or gender identity? those are really different

well a problem is that lgbtq doesnt belong together anyway because what are you fighting for? sexual orientation or gender identity? those are really different and are people really being fired for it?

scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
>are really different and are people really being fired for it? Absolutely not. The nice thing about being LGBTQPA+* is all the constitutional lawyers that will take your case pro-bono to persecute anyone you can speculatively accuse of discerning something about you. If you are straight then there is basically no such free help available to protect your rights, and have fun trying to bring something up to the supreme court all by yourself if you don't want to be forced to express homophilic opinions.
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  Actually, as I said, it is legal to discriminate against LGBTQ people in much of the country and the federal government had recently rolled back protections for LGBTQ people. Lawyers are not going to take pro bono cases because LGBTQ status is not constitutionally or federally protected.
  - scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
    Care to give any example of this happening?
    - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
      Yes. This is a case the supreme court refused to hear in 2017 of a woman who claims to have been fired for being a lesbian. https://www.newsweek.com/jameka-evans-lgbt-workplace-discrimination-scotus-744636 https://www.newsweek.com/jameka-evans-lgbt-workplace-discrim... Here is a case in 2014 of a man who was fired because his new manager went through his phone and found male gymnast photos. https://www.npr.org/2014/11/10/363049315/for-people-fired-for-being-gay-old-court-case-becomes-a-new-tool https://www.npr.org/2014/11/10/363049315/for-people-fired-fo... Here are 5 more examples: https://www.mic.com/articles/11738/5-people-who-were-fired-for-being-gay-and-the-29-states-where-that-is-still-legal https://www.mic.com/articles/11738/5-people-who-were-fired-f... That links to a study citing that american LGBTQ people experience much higher rates of workplace discrimination: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2011/06/02/9872/gay-and-transgender-people-face-high-rates-of-workplace-discrimination-and-harassment/ https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2011/06/02...
      - Aloha 7y ago
        None of which the recently rolled back protections would fix had they occurred while the protections were in place as they only applied to the federal government. You can't guarantee a civil right with an executive order.
        SolaceQuantum 7y ago
        That was not the requested ask.
      - scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
        I suspect that the LGBTQ people in these cases must have really done something that broke the law in these cases. In the news just the other day there were TWO gay lawyers who defended a gay person PRO BONO who murdered two kids in a school with 100 witnesses just because he said those kids teased him for being gay (though witnesses said no such thing ever happened).
      - anon12345690 7y ago
        have you thought that maybe lgbtq people are just harder to work with and then blame any fault on them being discriminated against for lgbtq?
  - hackermang 7y ago
    Should we change the constitution for you?
    - danans 7y ago
      I'm curious where in the US Constitution you think it states that discrimination on the basis of LGBTQ identity is legal. The question is about changing federal law to make LGBTQ identity a protected class, under the same principle that race, gender, religion, etc are currently protected.
      - hackermang 7y ago
        The first amendment.
        danans 7y ago
        The first amendment protects the right to fire someone on the basis of their LGBTQ identity?
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - c0nducktr 7y ago
      Dude fuck off, you've got a new account with -6 points. Go be an asshole elsewhere.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
> what are you fighting for? Simple: Freedom to be who the fuck you are. I don't know why that's so damned difficult to understand.
- foxhop 7y ago
  Wow. Was that really needed?
- anon12345690 7y ago
  you already have that freedom literally nobody is stopping you maybe you should try protesting in saudi arabia then?

scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago

>are really different and are people really being fired for it? Absolutely not. The nice thing about being LGBTQPA+* is all the constitutional lawyers that will take your case pro-bono to persecute anyone you can speculatively accuse of discerning something about you. If you are straight then there is basically no such free help available to protect your rights, and have fun trying to bring something up to the supreme court all by yourself if you don't want to be forced to express homophilic opinions.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
Actually, as I said, it is legal to discriminate against LGBTQ people in much of the country and the federal government had recently rolled back protections for LGBTQ people. Lawyers are not going to take pro bono cases because LGBTQ status is not constitutionally or federally protected.
- scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
  Care to give any example of this happening?
  - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
    Yes. This is a case the supreme court refused to hear in 2017 of a woman who claims to have been fired for being a lesbian. https://www.newsweek.com/jameka-evans-lgbt-workplace-discrimination-scotus-744636 https://www.newsweek.com/jameka-evans-lgbt-workplace-discrim... Here is a case in 2014 of a man who was fired because his new manager went through his phone and found male gymnast photos. https://www.npr.org/2014/11/10/363049315/for-people-fired-for-being-gay-old-court-case-becomes-a-new-tool https://www.npr.org/2014/11/10/363049315/for-people-fired-fo... Here are 5 more examples: https://www.mic.com/articles/11738/5-people-who-were-fired-for-being-gay-and-the-29-states-where-that-is-still-legal https://www.mic.com/articles/11738/5-people-who-were-fired-f... That links to a study citing that american LGBTQ people experience much higher rates of workplace discrimination: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2011/06/02/9872/gay-and-transgender-people-face-high-rates-of-workplace-discrimination-and-harassment/ https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2011/06/02...
    - Aloha 7y ago
      None of which the recently rolled back protections would fix had they occurred while the protections were in place as they only applied to the federal government. You can't guarantee a civil right with an executive order.
      - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
        That was not the requested ask.
    - scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
      I suspect that the LGBTQ people in these cases must have really done something that broke the law in these cases. In the news just the other day there were TWO gay lawyers who defended a gay person PRO BONO who murdered two kids in a school with 100 witnesses just because he said those kids teased him for being gay (though witnesses said no such thing ever happened).
    - anon12345690 7y ago
      have you thought that maybe lgbtq people are just harder to work with and then blame any fault on them being discriminated against for lgbtq?
- hackermang 7y ago
  Should we change the constitution for you?
  - danans 7y ago
    I'm curious where in the US Constitution you think it states that discrimination on the basis of LGBTQ identity is legal. The question is about changing federal law to make LGBTQ identity a protected class, under the same principle that race, gender, religion, etc are currently protected.
    - hackermang 7y ago
      The first amendment.
      - danans 7y ago
        The first amendment protects the right to fire someone on the basis of their LGBTQ identity?
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - c0nducktr 7y ago
    Dude fuck off, you've got a new account with -6 points. Go be an asshole elsewhere.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

> what are you fighting for? Simple: Freedom to be who the fuck you are. I don't know why that's so damned difficult to understand.

foxhop 7y ago
Wow. Was that really needed?
anon12345690 7y ago
you already have that freedom literally nobody is stopping you maybe you should try protesting in saudi arabia then?